Archbishop of Canterbury "not embarrassed" over new father

Gurucam

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The law of Moses is no good because:

The law of Moses is no good because:

Note that: all things here, that are posted in green, are direct and literal quotes from the KJV N.T.

Acts: 13 KJV N.T.
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.


No less than all the apostles confirm that believers who are Saints have God given justification to transgress the law of sin and death (i.e. the ten commandments).

More precisely: No less than all the apostles confirm that believers who are Saints have God given justification to fornicate, commit adultery and have extramarital sex.

(Note that the mother of Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, fornicated, committed adultery and had extramarital sex to bring forth Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby . . . therefore this matter is relevant to this thread. This is not to say that they are 'believers' and therefore justified to fornicate, commit adultery and have extramarital sex.

Fact is, they both seem to esteem, use and promote the law of sin and death. Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby esteems, uses and promote the law of sin and death in his church. Therefore neither son nor mother can be or are believers. They are unbelievers. Therefore their fornication, adultery and extramarital sex will inevitably be carnal and sinful and bring forth only children of the flesh (as a rule)
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Traditional Christians go directly to deny, corrupt and undermine the above revelations (i.e. Acts: 13 verse: 39 KJV N.T.). They are foolish and they remain foolish because they do not seek to find out Why? and How?

They do not go onto find out How? and Why? . . . believers who are Saints have God given justification to fornicate, commit adultery and have extramarital sex.

However for the edification of the genuine seeker of truth and Truth (not the pretend seeker), these questions are clearly, literally and precisely answered in the KJV N.T.:

1. The fact is the law of sin and dead is a curse. It is no good.

Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:


2. The law of Moses is no good because it is called the law of sin and death . . . this means that it leadeth onto death. Only the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus giveth life:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
2 for the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.


3. The law of Moses is no good because when you are under the law of sin and death you bring forth only fruits onto death:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death
(i.e. children of the flesh, like Ishmael).

4. The law of Moses is no good because, if you esteem. use and promote the law of sin and death, Christ is become of no effect unto you, ye are fallen from grace:

Galatians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.


5. The law of Moses is no good because now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter (that we should bring forth fruit unto God, like Issac):

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter (that we should bring forth fruit unto God, like Issac)


6. The law of Moses is no good because the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
2 for the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.


7. The law of Moses is no good because all who are under the law of sin and death fall short of the glory of God:

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
39 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith (only to) them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God:

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; (this means that every one who is under the law sins)

Romans: 6 King James Version (KJV)
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.


8. The law of Moses is no good because Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law:

Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:


9. The law of Moses is no good because the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus had to materialize and redeem humans from the curse of the law of sin and death, by freeing them from the law of sin and death:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
2 for the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.


10. The law of Moses is no good because no man is justified by the law (of sin and death) in the sight of God:

Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
11 But that no man is justified by the law (of sin and death) in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.


11. The law of Moses is no good because since 2000 odd years ago, the righteousness of God without the law is manifested:

Romans: 3 King James Version (KJV)
21 But now (since 2000 odd years ago) the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; (this is the second covenant) and thank God:


12. The law of Moses is no good because it is the first covenant and it is flawed:

Hebrews: 8 KJV N.T.
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.


:idea: Beware of 'spiritually dead' people who are false prophets and false spying brethren. They esteem, use and promote the law of sin and death so as to trap their spouses in loveless/Spiritless unions. They continue to have loveless/Spiritless procreative sex and bring forth only children of the flesh, like Ishmael.

Simply by esteeming, using and promoting the law of sin and death, they are all sinners and product of sin and they all end in hell, inside the depths of earth, with Satan. This is the all embracing curse of the law . . . No one who esteem, uses and promote the law of sin and death (even in the slight way) gets away.

These people who invoke the law of sin and death do not care about their spouse, children or anyone else. They care only about keeping their spouse in line to suit their own carnal, sinful, 'killething', loveless and Spiritless comfort. They do this in total denial, persecution and blasphemy of all of the following God given revelations:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death
(i.e. children of the flesh, like Ishmael).


Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
2 for the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.


Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:


Hebrews: 8 KJV N.T.
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.


Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter (that we should bring forth fruit unto God, like Issac)


Romans: 3 King James Version (KJV)
21 But now (since 2000 odd years ago) the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; (this is the second covenant) and thank God:

Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
11 But that no man is justified by the law (of sin and death) in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

Galatians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.


:idea: Fact is, people who esteem, use and promote the law of sin and death (even in the slightest way) are not 'believers'. The apostles all confirmed this fact in absolute clarity:

Acts: 13 KJV N.T.
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.


:idea: All the above good boys (i.e. God given KJV N.T. revelations) confirm that the law of sin and death is evil and a curse and inevitably and invariably leads one to sin and death and delivery into hell inside the earth with Satan. If one is under the law of sin and death there is no escaping these things.

However some unfortunate people choose and want this for themselves, their family, friends and associates . . . when righteousness of God that is without the law of sin and death has been available for the past 2000 odd years. This is through the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus. Oh how foolish, unfortunate and lost are some people.

People who esteem, use and promote the law of sin and death (even in the slightest way) are not concerned with and do not earn, salvation, deliverance and eternal life.

Some of them pretend to be confused by the KJV N.T. However they are never confused when it comes to corruptly propping-up the law of sin and death. In fact to prop-up the law of sin and death they will discard, deny, persecute, blaspheme, throw-out, relegate, corrupt and/or undermine any revelation in KJV N.T., according to their fancy . . . Genuineoriginal is one such example, beware.

Seems that Genuineoriginal might just have a spouse locked and obedient (on Genuineoriginal's terms) in a loveless/Spiritless marriage by invoking and enforcing the law of sin and death on his or her spouse.

Hey, you have to set your spouse free. Indeed he or she must always be free to leave. If he or she is bonded to you by Love/Spirit (i.e. by God), he or she will return or never leave. Then he or she belongs in a marriage with you (i.e. if you are Christian). This is both the ordinary and acid test for Christians. Esteeming, using, invoking and promoting the law of sin and death is not for Christians

If your spouse goes away, well your marriage is not put together by God. Or it is no longer held together by God. It must be dissolved . . . and so be it.

For Christians, love is the only thing that creates and keeps, their marriages together. Things like marriage vows, the law of sin and death etc. counts for nothing. Then if and when love wanes (and it can) Christian marriages have ended. That is as far as God is concerned (i.e. under grace of God) the marriages have ended.

Then it will be natural, spontaneous, graceful and pleasing for the parties to such marriages to end those marriages. They must end their marriages and move on to other spouses or no spouse. This is the Christian way of life. Christians were freed from the law of sin and death and other Old traditions, so that they can live in this liberated (love based/Spirit based) manner:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
(children of God, like Issac)

Also this is not a one time test. This is an on going test. Christians must always be sure that passionate love is the motivator and glue of their marital union and especially their procreative sex. If for any reason and at any time passionate love has waned from one procreating unions (including marriages), such procreating unions must be dissolved. This is the Christian way of life. This is how to live in and under, Grace of God.

. . . continued in the next post # 122
 
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Gurucam

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. . . from previous post # 121

1 Corinthians: 7 verses: 13 & 14 KJV N.T. is not about bringing forth children. It is about being separated from a loveless/Spiritless marriage. It is about being justly separated from a loveless/Spiritless spouse.

It about letting your spouse who esteem, use, promote and quote the law of sin and death leave your marriage, if he or she wants to leave. It is about supporting and sanctioning marital separation and divorce.

1 Corinthians: 7 KJV N.T.
13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.


The above says the same thing as:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God. (children of God, like Issac)


Many people quote the ten commandments to justify, force or imprisoned their spouses in loveless marriages. This is wrong.

Fact is spouses (who are believers) are free to be separated from loveless/Spiritless marriages. They must not be forced to stay in a loveless/Spiritless marriage and have loveless sex. Marriages are not forever.

The sad fact is that people who esteem, use and promote the law of sin and death also quote the law of sin and death to justify trapping their spouses, in their loveless/Spiritless marriages.

The even sadder fact is that they falsely believe that they are 'believers". They are not the 'believers". 'Believers' do not esteem, use, promote or quote the law of sin and death.

Acts: 13 KJV N.T.
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.


No less than all the apostles confirm that believers who are Saints have God given justification to transgress the law of sin and death (i.e. the ten commandments).

More precisely: No less than all the apostles confirm that believers who are Saints have God given justification to fornicate, commit adultery and have extramarital sex.

The ones who esteem, use, promote and evokes the law of sin and death (to uphold loveless/Spiritless marriages) are the 'unbeliever' who are departing. The ones who esteem, use, promote and evoke the law of sin and death are the evil ones. This is totally supported by the following revelations:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
 
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Gurucam

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The curse of those who choose to esteem, use and promote the law of sin and death:

The curse of those who choose to esteem, use and promote the law of sin and death:

People who esteem, use, promote and invoke the law of sin and death do not care about their spouse, children or anyone else.

Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
11 But that no man is justified by the law (of sin and death) in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

Acts: 13 KJV N.T.
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.


They care only about keeping their spouse in line to suit their own carnal, sinful, 'killething', loveless and Spiritless comfort. They do this in total denial, persecution and blasphemy of the following God given revelation (and many others):

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death
(i.e. children of the flesh, like Ishmael).

The above is coupled with being free from (i.e. becoming dead to) the law of sin and death:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.


The above (Romans: 7 verse: 5 KJV N.T.) confirms that people who esteem, use, promote and invoke the law of sin and death delight in carnal sex and bringing forth only children of the flesh (like Ismael). Children of the flesh will not inherit the surface of earth, with children of God (like Issac), in God's kingdom of heaven, in the fullness of time. . . . note this very carefully.

People who esteem, use, promote and invoke the law of sin and death must note that all their fruits are 'fruits onto death'. None are fruits onto God. Their fruits, through sexual procreation are all children of the flesh and not any children of God.

'Children of the flesh' will not inherit the surface of earth, together with 'children of God', in God's kingdom of heaven, in the fullness of time. . . . if you need further clarification of this fact, please ask, it is not provided in this post.

People who esteem, use, promote and invoke the law of sin and death delight in bringing forth children of the flesh.

All 'children of the flesh' (fruits onto death) are addressed by the Lord Jesus, as follows: "Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels" . . . this is hell inside the depth of earth with Satan.

On the other hand all 'children of God' (fruits onto God) are addressed by the Lord Jesus as follows: "Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world" . . . this is God kingdom of heaven, both in spirit heaven and also on the surface of earth, in the fullness of time.

It is simply. People esteem, use, promote and invoke the law of sin and death so that they can quote it for their spouses and so keep their spouses locked in loveless/Spiritless marriage, with them.

People who esteem, use, promote and invoke the law of sin and death delight in carnal, loveless, Spiritless sex. They do not care that their spouses do not love them and want to be separated from them. They do not care that God (who is love) is not in their union. They just want to stay with their spouse, 'any which way' and have carnal sex with him or her. Love/God/Spirit does not matter to these people who esteem, use, promote and invoke the law of sin and death. They are totally dead to love and/or Spirit. They are 'the dead who are burying their dead'.

Also they misguidedly, blindly, foolishly and corruptly believe that they are 'believers' because they esteem, use, promote and invoke the law of sin and death. They are not 'believer'.

Fact is 'believers' have God given justification to transgress the law of sin and death . . . and they accept this God given justification and they do transgress the law of sin and death. "Believer" do not esteem, use, promote and/or invoke the law of sin and death.

Acts: 13 KJV N.T.
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.


Fact is the ones who accept that they have God given justification to transgress the law of sin and death and exercise that justification, are the 'believers' And they have every God given justification to leave or be separated from, their spouses who esteem, use, promote and invoke the law of sin and death. Because those who esteem, use, promote and invoke the law of sin and death are unbelievers.

At all events, believes (i.e. those who are not under the law of sin and death) are justified by God to be separated from unbelievers (i.e. those who esteem, use, promote and invoke the law of sin and death).

Believers have God given justification to transgress the law of sin and death (for very good reasons):

Acts: 13 KJV N.T.
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.


Believers have God given justification to transgress the law of sin and death so that they will stop bringing forth fruits onto dead and start bring forth fruits on to God.

With respect to procreative sex, believers have God given justification to fornicate, commit adultery and have extramarital sex so that they can serve in the newness of spirit and so stop bringing forth children of the flesh and start bringing forth only children of God.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
 
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genuineoriginal

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believers have God given justification to fornicate, commit adultery and have extramarital sex
Fornication, adultery, and extramarital sex is just as much a sin when done by a Christian as when done by an unbeliever.

Ephesians 5:3
3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;​

 
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