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glorydaz

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Well seeing as Jesus himself says that the father is the only true God, and that the father is his God and father, and the apostles also call God, the God and father of our Lord Jesus Christ, and Paul says that the head of Christ is God, then I believe them.

Would you like me to quote some verses that clearly show us that the father is the God of Christ Jesus?

And, Jesus Christ is my Lord but his not my God, the father is my God and Jesus Christ is his son, as it says clearly in the Bible.

Go right ahead. I can out quote you. He was God a lot longer than He was a man.

But you'll just ignore the obvious. Watch....

In the beginning the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word WAS GOD. All things were created by Him.

The Word became flesh and dwelt among us. :chew:
 

Greg Jennings

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Buddy, you muse? No, you are the Lord Jesus Christ's enemy, and thus mine, sweetie, an enemy of the gospel of Christ.


Get saved, Roman.

You seem pretty self-important huh?

I'm guessing you're not much of anything, an I right? Projecting a big picture online to feel big?
 

popsthebuilder

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Go right ahead. I can out quote you. He was God a lot longer than He was a man.

But you'll just ignore the obvious. Watch....

In the beginning the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word WAS GOD. All things were created by Him.

The Word became flesh and dwelt among us. :chew:
I've asked a couple of times.

You are well versed in scripture.

Can you help me find the texts that say the man Jesus was the word, you know, as opposed to the spirit or Christ of GOD?

actually Christ meaning anointed by GOD seems to show that the man Jesus was not wholly GOD or the Word, but received the Word.

This interests me and I am actually hoping to learn something here.

Can you please reference the verses for me?



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glorydaz

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And, Jesus Christ is my Lord but his not my God, the father is my God and Jesus Christ is his son, as it says clearly in the Bible.

Then you will not be blessed. :nono:

John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

John 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.



AND, worse yet, you have no Saviour, since God said quite clearly, "Beside me there is no Saviour".

Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no Saviour.

Isaiah 45:21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the Lord? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.

2 Timothy 1:10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:​


As she stumbles again over the ROCK of offense. :shocked:
 

glorydaz

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Wow you're good at avoiding questions!

By the way, Jesus did answer the Canaanite woman, once he saw her faith, and he also healed her daughter because of her faith too.

And Jesus never answered the chief priests and scribes etc. in mark 11, because they didn't believe in him and they didn't believe in the gospel of God and they were trying to trick him.

And Luke 23 is when Herod was questioning Jesus, but Jesus knew his heart, and when Jesus didn't answer him, Herod and his soldiers treated him as nothing and mocked him. Just as many treat those who truly follow Jesus today!

Anyway it's late here, so I'm off.

:rotfl:
 

drbrumley

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What do you mean what do they do with St. Paul?



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So enlighten me Pops, what's so different from Paul and the 12? I'm asking YOUR opinion. This is an important question to you, MESHAKKKKKKKKKKKKKK, Godstruth, Marhig and the whole host of yall.

Here is my issue with your spiritual Israel. Since you fine folks want to be called Israel, your saying the twelve (without Paul, as he was not a part of the 12) will stand in judgement over you. Also, what tribe do you belong to?
 

john w

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Wow you're good at avoiding questions!

Again-chapter, verse, where I am required to, especially from lost people, like yourself. The 1 Peter verse you quoted does not do it. Try again.
By the way, Jesus did answer the Canaanite woman, once he saw her faith, and he also healed her daughter because of her faith too.

That is slick-you changed your argument, Buckwheat.
No, you didn't answer me, and those verses don't answer my question either.

=you asserted I must answer-no exception

1 peter 3

But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
=you asserted everyone must must answer any/all questions-no exception


And 1 Peter says no such thing.

And Jesus never answered the chief priests and scribes etc. in mark 11, because they didn't believe in him and they didn't believe in the gospel of God and they were trying to trick him.

And Luke 23 is when Herod was questioning Jesus, but Jesus knew his heart, and when Jesus didn't answer him, Herod and his soldiers treated him as nothing and mocked him. Just as many treat those who truly follow Jesus today!
That is slick-you changed your argument, Buckwheat.

No, you didn't answer me, and those verses don't answer my question either.

=you asserted I must answer-no exception

1 peter 3

But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
=you asserted everyone must must answer any/all questions-no exception


And 1 Peter says no such thing.
 

popsthebuilder

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Revelation 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
Yes; we agree that the Rider on the white horse is Christ, but it doesn't seem to be depicting Jesus of Nazareth per say, but reiterates that the Word of GOD is Christ, to me.

Any more please?

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popsthebuilder

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So enlighten me Pops, what's so different from Paul and the 12? I'm asking YOUR opinion. This is an important question to you, MESHAKKKKKKKKKKKKKK, Godstruth, Marhig and the whole host of yall.

Here is my issue with your spiritual Israel. Since you fine folks want to be called Israel, your saying the twelve (without Paul, as he was not a part of the 12) will stand in judgement over you. Also, what tribe do you belong to?

I personally consider St. Paul to be an apostle; I don't consider Judas an apostle of Christ.

I don't want to be called anything. What divides St. Paul from the others? I know he considers himself a prisoner of the Lord.

He never saw Jesus the man; he witnessed Christ.

Only One will judge me.



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JudgeRightly

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Well seeing as Jesus himself says that the father is the only true God, and that the father is his God and father, and the apostles also call God, the God and father of our Lord Jesus Christ, and Paul says that the head of Christ is God, then I believe them.

Would you like me to quote some verses that clearly show us that the father is the God of Christ Jesus?

And, Jesus Christ is my Lord but his not my God, the father is my God and Jesus Christ is his son, as it says clearly in the Bible.
Go right ahead. I can out quote you. He was God a lot longer than He was a man.

But you'll just ignore the obvious. Watch....

In the beginning the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word WAS GOD. All things were created by Him.

The Word became flesh and dwelt among us. :chew:
Don't forget this passage...

God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets,has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,having become so much better than the angels, as He has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.For to which of the angels did He ever say: “You are My Son, Today I have begotten You”? And again: “I will be to Him a Father, And He shall be to Me a Son” ?But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says: “Let all the angels of God worship Him.”And of the angels He says: “Who makes His angels spirits And His ministers a flame of fire.”But to the Son He says: “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”And: “You, LORD, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, And the heavens are the work of Your hands.They will perish, but You remain; And they will all grow old like a garment;Like a cloak You will fold them up, And they will be changed. But You are the same, And Your years will not fail.”But to which of the angels has He ever said: “Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool”?Are they not all ministering spirits sent forth to minister for those who will inherit salvation? - Hebrews 1:1-14 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews1:1-14&version=NKJV
 

popsthebuilder

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Again-chapter, verse, where I am required to, especially from lost people, like yourself. The 1 Peter verse you quoted does not do it. Try again.


That is slick-you changed your argument, Buckwheat.


=you asserted I must answer-no exception


=you asserted everyone must must answer any/all questions-no exception


And 1 Peter says no such thing.


That is slick-you changed your argument, Buckwheat.



=you asserted I must answer-no exception


=you asserted everyone must must answer any/all questions-no exception


And 1 Peter says no such thing.
I thought she asserted you are to answer any question regarding your faith, but I could be wrong.

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