annabenedetti
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Using the "no true Christian" fallacy is way too convenient.
The fact that they identify as Christians isn't nothing, it's everything.
Abortion Anyone?
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Using the "no true Christian" fallacy is way too convenient.
The fact that they identify as Christians isn't nothing, it's everything.
ok doser
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To a non-Christian like you, perhaps
But "claiming" to be born again means something? Some sort of magic words? How does that make any sense?
annabenedetti
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The magic works like this:
If a Christian voted for prop 8, supported Kim Davis, shouted "build the wall!" prayed outside abortion clinics, and considered everyone left of Attila the Hun a "leftist," then they're a real Christian.
If a Christian has obtained an abortion, they're not a real Christian.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
again, not surprising that a non-Christian like you doesn't get it
annabenedetti
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Not surprising you would be one of the magicians giving that magic a workout...
Jerry Shugart
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ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
it's tragic that we live in a society that tells young people to reject God and that it's ok to embrace evil
Jerry Shugart
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Silly!
"Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity" (Mt.7:22-23).
annabenedetti
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It's not judgment day yet, Jerry. Right now, they identify as Christians. Christians (all denoms, including my own, whether or not sod approves) need to look at their own glass houses and try to understand where they're failing these girls and women before talking about the millions of aborted lives as if they were separate and apart from their own churches.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
I can paint myself red and call myself a firetruck, but it don't make it so
It's fairly simple. IF one claims the label of a Christian, they are ... a Christian. The only person who is capable of determining what or who they are is ... them. And yes, *real* Christians have had abortions. I knew several from my Christians school and church.
Idolater
"Matthew 16:18-19" Dispensationalist (Catholic) χρ
No Christians murder, and no murderers are Christians.
1st John 3:15 KJV " . . . no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him."
Words equal fruit. Oh, now I get it. Makes it so easy, no?
Millions more voted for Clinton rather than Trump so not sure your reasoning holds up.
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Contrary to what you said, the Founding Fathers of our once great nation didn't believe that immoral behavior was a "States rights issue".
The Founding Fathers based their decisions on what was said in Holy Scripture. They loathed democracy (majority rule), and embraced a constitutional republic where man's rights come from God.
A Few Declarations of Founding Fathers and Early Statesmen on Jesus, Christianity, and the Bible
https://wallbuilders.com/founding-fathers-jesus-christianity-bible/
Contrary to what you said, the Founding Fathers of our once great nation didn't believe that immoral behavior was a "States rights issue".
The Founding Fathers based their decisions on what was said in Holy Scripture. They loathed democracy (majority rule), and embraced a constitutional republic where man's rights come from God.
A Few Declarations of Founding Fathers and Early Statesmen on Jesus, Christianity, and the Bible
https://wallbuilders.com/founding-fathers-jesus-christianity-bible/
Jerry Shugart
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Yes, and they also wanted the power to remain as close to the people as possible and that is the reason we read the following:
“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
The question of whether or not to make abortion legal should have been decided in each individual state and not by a handful of people who were not elected to anything.
Jerry Shugart
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Words are cheap!
Yep, which is why calling yourself "born again" and somehow getting pluses for that is pointless.
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
The Founding Fathers based their decisions on what was said in Holy Scripture. They loathed democracy (majority rule), and embraced a constitutional republic where man's rights come from God.
Replace the word abortion with homosexuality/pedophilia/pederasty, incest or bestiality and see how ridiculous your statement is Aar...ahem...Gerald.
The Founding Fathers based their decisions on what was said in Holy Scripture. They loathed democracy (majority rule), and embraced a constitutional republic where man's rights come from God.
Replace the word abortion with homosexuality/pedophilia/pederasty, incest or bestiality and see how ridiculous your statement is Aar...ahem...Gerald.