Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, and to make you stand in the presence of His glory blameless with great joy, to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion and authority, before all time and now and forever. AmenOriginally posted by godrulz
Jude 24, 25
IDIOT!! God can only keep those from falling who have some place to fall. Those who are not in Christ have nowhere to fall! The verse says that it is HE that keeps us (those who are already His) from falling. It is not a cooperative effort, and this is more evidence of your gospel of self-righteousness.Originally posted by godrulz
God is able to keep us from falling, but not everyone is kept from falling. Hmmmm.
Originally posted by Sozo
You don't have a clue what the hell you are talking about! You are a demon-possessed lifeless pig!
I hope you go to hell and burn for eternity for the lives that you destroy through your gospel of self-righteousness! Hitler had nothing on the evil that you perpetrate!
:shut:Originally posted by Lawless
spirit of the law?
:doh:Originally posted by godrulz
Why divorce spirit from flesh? We are one person: spirit, soul, and body. We are to glorify God in spirit, heart, mind, will, intellect, emotions, eyes, mouth, hands, body. A perfect spirit should manifest in body. Flesh is used as a metaphor for living for sin, pleasure, bodily desires, etc., but the body is called the temple of the Holy Spirit for believers. There is a difference between Paul's use of flesh and physical body.
Can you tell me where scripture uses the phrase, "spirit of the law?"Originally posted by godrulz
Not all laws are bad. Traffic and health laws are beneficial. God's moral law is also a foundation for right living and society.
I do not remember context, but the letter of the law could be do not murder and commit adultery (Pharisees understanding). The spirit of the law (Jesus) is that hate and lust break the spirit vs letter of the law. They thought Jesus broke the letter of the law on Sabbath issues. Jesus kept the spirit of the law by healing on the Sabbath (the sanctity of life trumps the numerous Pharisaical laws added to the Decalogue).
Does it say the letter kills, but the spirit gives life? The Law condemns us as falling short of God's perfection. The law of love and liberty in Christ (the laws are written on our hearts, rather than tablets of stone) allows us to keep the spirit of the law.
Legalism X
License X (lawlessness)
Love/obedience..check.
Can you tell me where scripture uses the phrase, "spirit of the law?"
Originally posted by lighthouse
:doh:
Originally posted by Lawless
Yeah.........It is in 2 Cor 3:5-7
A lot of people interpret this verse as.....Letter of the law and spirit of the law........as godrulz's does! I ask him this question, because I think it to be the key to this thread......Law vs Grace! He answered it as I thought he would.
I haven't answered godrulz yet...but I interpret this verse differant then he......The "spirit" spoken of here is the spirit of Christ, were we recieve our life and rightousness, and not of the law. But "letter" used here is talking about the law.
There is no such thing as "spirit of the law!"Originally posted by godrulz
I was not exegeting this passage. I was using the phrase in general terms to describe a common concept different than the passage. There is more than one meaning to a phrase in different contexts. It is possible to keep the letter of the law with a wrong motive, thus breaking the spirit of the law (whether religious or secular laws). There can be a difference between the heart and the outward appearance. A disciplined child can be told to sit down, but he may be thinking "yah, but I'm standing up on the inside...he sits down but his heart is still defiant...lip service only.
A disciplined child can be told to sit down, but he may be thinking "yah, but I'm standing up on the inside...he sits down but his heart is still defiant...lip service only
Originally posted by lighthouse
There is no such thing as "spirit of the law!"
Originally posted by OMEGA
Godrulz said,
There is a difference between the Holy Spirit
and other uses of the word spirit.
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Explain the Difference ?????????
Were those other spirits God too ???????