Interplanner
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For those new to the D'ism problem (I should say cult, but more on that later), perhaps a good way to introduce the problem is this story from the past year.
When I debate D'ism, I focus on 2P2P because that is an actual driving mechanism in this theological abberation, and because people will always find or take exceptions to a 'name.' (Preterism is even less accurate than D'ism right now, in my view). 2P2P is the doctrine that God has two programs and peoples going in the Bible. They never merge or overlap, they are dealt with alternately, back-and-forth, there are two realms, faiths, ways of salvation, etc.
Over the past year, then, I was not surprised to hear this: that they were saying that people who did not think there was any dealings with Israel coming up were making a bigger mistake than the rejection of Christ when he first came! If I did not attach Ps 83 or Ezek 38-9 to the daily middle-east geo-political news feed, I was going to 'miss the boat' the way the Pharisees did in the 1st century.
All this because of the belief that two programs are running distinct from each other.
It is sufficient for me to say that the problem with this view is that the NT says that the sacrifice of Christ is such an enormous event that angels wish they could peer into it but somehow can't. I see nothing supplant the Gospel event in the NT. In heaven, in the Rev, we do not see the mighty multitudes singing 'Worthy is the Lamb who defeated Israel's enemies and has set up a theocratic kingdom on earth!'
When I debate D'ism, I focus on 2P2P because that is an actual driving mechanism in this theological abberation, and because people will always find or take exceptions to a 'name.' (Preterism is even less accurate than D'ism right now, in my view). 2P2P is the doctrine that God has two programs and peoples going in the Bible. They never merge or overlap, they are dealt with alternately, back-and-forth, there are two realms, faiths, ways of salvation, etc.
Over the past year, then, I was not surprised to hear this: that they were saying that people who did not think there was any dealings with Israel coming up were making a bigger mistake than the rejection of Christ when he first came! If I did not attach Ps 83 or Ezek 38-9 to the daily middle-east geo-political news feed, I was going to 'miss the boat' the way the Pharisees did in the 1st century.
All this because of the belief that two programs are running distinct from each other.
It is sufficient for me to say that the problem with this view is that the NT says that the sacrifice of Christ is such an enormous event that angels wish they could peer into it but somehow can't. I see nothing supplant the Gospel event in the NT. In heaven, in the Rev, we do not see the mighty multitudes singing 'Worthy is the Lamb who defeated Israel's enemies and has set up a theocratic kingdom on earth!'
