The right to consent over what medical treatments or procedures you have or don't have.
Stuart
A Consistently Pro-Life Message
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Stuart
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
if a woman chooses to have a healthy limb amputated, should she be allowed to?
if a woman chooses to exercise her parental rights and refuse lifesaving treatment for her injured child, should she be allowed to?
alwight
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I'm sure you'll use your influence here to best effect Stripe.Not for long.
Alate_One
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That's true it isn't. But the baby does have an *effect* on the mother's body, which is where the "my body" idea comes from. But that idea is self serving and ignorant of the baby involved.
Nope. I'm pro-death penalty in principle, the problem is the practice in the USA.
As I said the interplay is complex and in the case of rape I think it is justified if the woman continues to feel violated by a pregnancy.
Not an argument from popularity. It's a statement of reality. In a democratic society, you're not going to get enough people to support it.
Alate_One
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Another pro-life issue. In China it's popular to make sure you *kill* the person you accidentally hit with your car. Because if they survive you have to pay their medical bills for life, but if they die you only have to pay a burial fee.
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alwight
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Apparently you can't trust people to make their own choices in life, you must step in where you think other people have crossed your line?
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Fair point
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
Apparently you can't trust people to make their own choices in life, you must step in where you think other people have crossed your line?
actually, the two cases i presented were real cases that we discussed recently in a medical ethics class - in each case, the state intervened - the psychologically disturbed woman who wanted to amputate a healthy limb was prevented from doing so and the woman who wanted to refuse treatment for her child was also prevented from doing so.
alwight
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My comment was more aimed at your intent rather than in specific cases. You seem to be implying that you would seek to control the lives of those whom you conclude are making faulty choices, right?
alwight
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Are you God?
alwight
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Well, you seemed to think that other people already had to conform to your conclusions rather than their own. But never mind I don't actually believe in God anyway.
Self abort? How would she do that?
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
I believe this has been done. It's pretty rare though. Do you think it makes a significant difference to the main point?
Well no, but what has that got to do with it?
Stuart
For babies, definitely.
You condone the execution of a baby for the crimes of his father.
And here's a false dichotomy. It's both. Murder is popular, which is no argument against what I say.
That didn't stop the homos 10 years ago.
Are you suggesting that Stripe's habits of running away from debates he is losing and stalking people for opportunities to have them banned doesn't flatter his reputation?
Stuart
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
they are direct responses to a question asked
see if you can figure out how they answer that question
alwight
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Now you come to mention it...Are you suggesting that Stripe's habits of running away from debates he is losing and stalking people for opportunities to have them banned doesn't flatter his reputation?
Stuart