Bob Enyart: "The Republicans are the greater of two evils!"
31 Reasons To Reject The Jab
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Bob Enyart: "The Republicans are the greater of two evils!"
Not true. If anything, COVID related deaths were overcounted because it was freely admitted by the bureaucrats in charge that death with COVID was counted the same as death by COVID.
And further, pneumonia was a much bigger risk to people that spent a great deal of time re-breathing the festering petri dish they strapped to their faces than COVID. We know this because masking up for long periods with the same mask, especially cloth masks that soak up moisture, has a history of correlation with pneumonia. Your speculation that a sick person will be strong enough to fight off a viral infection while being killed by pneumonia has no evidence and is counter-intuitive.
And even further, the causes of non-COVID excess deaths was due to all causes. Although I think the biggest spike was from suicide as a percentage, and heart disease/cancer/stroke in absolute numbers.
Oh, and let me edit to add one more thing that should not be overlooked. When young people die, it has always been correlated with old people dying as a lagging signal. So there probably would have been even less people dying in the older group if we had done nothing except the normal things we do for the flu.
There were almost zero overrun hospitals in 2020. The only places that had a hard time were places that worked hard to get maximum infections like Cuomo did in NY. Even in NY they didn't use the extra capacity provided to them!
There is no way, according to math, that overrun hospitals contributed to the 25% (or 33%) of excess deaths. In fact, if that contributed to any deaths it would be a negligible number not detectable in national stats.
And further, the only overrun hospitals in 2021 have been due to a lack of staff, not increased COVID hospitalizations.
That was already taken into account by the CDC for the excess death numbers. Increased population was taken into account, too.
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Story at-a-glance
- Data show COVID-19 deaths have been wildly exaggerated by counting people who died from other conditions but had a positive COVID test within 28 days of their death
- U.K. data released in response to a Freedom of Information Act request show that the number of deaths between January 2020 and the end of September 2021 in England and Wales, where COVID-19 was the sole cause of death, was just 17,371 — not 137,133 as reported
- Of the 17,371 people who had COVID-19 as the sole cause of death, 13,597 were 65 or older. The average age of death in the U.K. from COVID in 2021 was 82.5 years
- Compare that to the projected life expectancy in the U.K., which is 79 for men and 82.9 for women. This hardly constitutes an emergency, least of all for healthy school- and working-age individuals
- Estimates suggest there’s been an extra 50,000 cancer deaths over the past 18 months — deaths that normally would not have occurred. Delayed diagnosis and inability to receive proper treatment due to COVID restrictions are thought to be primary reasons for this
Comparing population groups before the vaccine came out with groups after the vaccine came out we find that tens of millions of Americans did not need the vaccine to protect them from covid.
Miscarriages among women in the military are up something like a thousand percent among the vaccinated.
Go ahead and post some documentation for that claim from a reputable source.
Nobody who promotes vaccine mandates cares that hundreds have died so far from the jab
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The update to VAERS released today also shows that there have been 3,306 fetal deaths reported following COVID-19 vaccines since they were given emergency use authorization in December, 2020. (Source.)
By way of contrast, there have been 2,493 fetal deaths reported following all FDA-approved vaccines for the previous 31 years. (Source.)
By way of contrast, there have been 2,493 fetal deaths reported following all FDA-approved vaccines for the previous 31 years. (Source.)
My sources have been banned by the leftist propagandist police, but we can get around the lying leftist propaganda by posting facts they cannot hide. There have been hundreds of credible reports of women having miscarriages after being given the covid jab. My daughter was one of them. But the fact remains no leftist medical group knows whether the vaccine is causing miscarriages or not because nobody on the left has done an in-depth study involving the emerging data. If lefties claim there is no proof the vaccines are causing miscarriages then they should admit (but they don't) that they have no proof the covid vaccines are not causing miscarriages.
Lefties don't conduct studies like that because they do not want to risk finding out that their vaccine is dangerous and even deadly.
Nevertheless, studies have been done by researchers who are not blindly subject to leftist narratives no matter whether true or not. Read this:
Using data from the study and several estimates, the New Zealand researchers calculated that spontaneous abortions occurred in 81.9 percent to 91.2 percent of the women who were vaccinated before 20 weeks of gestation.
Hmm. It's almost as if those promoting the vaccine were in favor of depopulation or something. But no, perish the thought. Forget I said anything.
It's a lie:
There is no scientific reason the vaccine might be expected to affect pregnancy. A new, as yet not peer-reviewed, study looking at 2,456 pregnant women who got an mRNA vaccine (such as those from Moderna or Pfizer) before they conceived or up to 20 weeks found there was no increased chance of miscarriage.
A claim we’ve seen circulating around miscarriages and the vaccine was that a study had shown 82% of pregnancies end with miscarriage following Covid vaccinations. This is wrong. This figure is based on an incorrect calculation. The study in question followed almost 4,000 women who had been pregnant when they got their vaccination.
When the researchers published their study, a lot of the participants were still pregnant. So they only looked at the 827 completed pregnancies, meaning those that had ended in a live birth, still birth, abortion or miscarriage.
Of those, 104 sadly ended in miscarriage, or about 12.6% of completed pregnancies. This is similar to the proportion of pregnancies sadly expected to end in miscarriage regardless of vaccine status.
The calculation resulting in the false 82% figure looked at how many miscarriages occurred in the relatively few (127) who were vaccinated in their first or second trimesters. But the study was only looking at completed pregnancies. While the researchers said the data did not indicate “obvious safety signals”, they added that “more longitudinal follow-up, including follow-up of large numbers of women vaccinated earlier in pregnancy, is necessary”.
Viki Male, an immunologist working on pregnancy at Imperial College London, called it “a meaningless statistic” on Twitter, since it is not possible to complete a pregnancy in only three months and have it result in a live birth.
She wrote: “And presumably the only reason that rate isn't 100% is because some people vaccinated at the end of the 2nd trimester completed their pregnancies within 3 months by giving birth. So, from the data in this paper we can calculate the miscarriage rate on completed pregnancies as 12.6%. Or we can calculate the miscarriage rate on (probably) completed first trimesters as 8.5%. Both of these are no higher than normal. But the quoted rate of 84% is not the miscarriage rate. It just tells us that we can't go from the first trimester to giving birth to a healthy baby in three months. Which I think we all knew, right?”
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What we know about Covid-19 vaccines and miscarriages - Full Fact
There’s no evidence that the vaccines are causing miscarriages.
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It's a lie:
There is no scientific reason the vaccine might be expected to affect pregnancy. A new, as yet not peer-reviewed, study looking at 2,456 pregnant women who got an mRNA vaccine (such as those from Moderna or Pfizer) before they conceived or up to 20 weeks found there was no increased chance of miscarriage.
A claim we’ve seen circulating around miscarriages and the vaccine was that a study had shown 82% of pregnancies end with miscarriage following Covid vaccinations. This is wrong. This figure is based on an incorrect calculation. The study in question followed almost 4,000 women who had been pregnant when they got their vaccination.
When the researchers published their study, a lot of the participants were still pregnant. So they only looked at the 827 completed pregnancies, meaning those that had ended in a live birth, still birth, abortion or miscarriage.
Of those, 104 sadly ended in miscarriage, or about 12.6% of completed pregnancies. This is similar to the proportion of pregnancies sadly expected to end in miscarriage regardless of vaccine status.
The calculation resulting in the false 82% figure looked at how many miscarriages occurred in the relatively few (127) who were vaccinated in their first or second trimesters. But the study was only looking at completed pregnancies. While the researchers said the data did not indicate “obvious safety signals”, they added that “more longitudinal follow-up, including follow-up of large numbers of women vaccinated earlier in pregnancy, is necessary”.
Viki Male, an immunologist working on pregnancy at Imperial College London, called it “a meaningless statistic” on Twitter, since it is not possible to complete a pregnancy in only three months and have it result in a live birth.
She wrote: “And presumably the only reason that rate isn't 100% is because some people vaccinated at the end of the 2nd trimester completed their pregnancies within 3 months by giving birth. So, from the data in this paper we can calculate the miscarriage rate on completed pregnancies as 12.6%. Or we can calculate the miscarriage rate on (probably) completed first trimesters as 8.5%. Both of these are no higher than normal. But the quoted rate of 84% is not the miscarriage rate. It just tells us that we can't go from the first trimester to giving birth to a healthy baby in three months. Which I think we all knew, right?”
What we know about Covid-19 vaccines and miscarriages - Full Fact
There’s no evidence that the vaccines are causing miscarriages.fullfact.org
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A sample of 5? You should try to get that published!
I prefer what real researchers report over what quacks like Fauci say.It's a lie:
There is no scientific reason the vaccine might be expected to affect pregnancy. A new, as yet not peer-reviewed, study looking at 2,456 pregnant women who got an mRNA vaccine (such as those from Moderna or Pfizer) before they conceived or up to 20 weeks found there was no increased chance of miscarriage.
A claim we’ve seen circulating around miscarriages and the vaccine was that a study had shown 82% of pregnancies end with miscarriage following Covid vaccinations. This is wrong. This figure is based on an incorrect calculation. The study in question followed almost 4,000 women who had been pregnant when they got their vaccination.
When the researchers published their study, a lot of the participants were still pregnant. So they only looked at the 827 completed pregnancies, meaning those that had ended in a live birth, still birth, abortion or miscarriage.
Of those, 104 sadly ended in miscarriage, or about 12.6% of completed pregnancies. This is similar to the proportion of pregnancies sadly expected to end in miscarriage regardless of vaccine status.
The calculation resulting in the false 82% figure looked at how many miscarriages occurred in the relatively few (127) who were vaccinated in their first or second trimesters. But the study was only looking at completed pregnancies. While the researchers said the data did not indicate “obvious safety signals”, they added that “more longitudinal follow-up, including follow-up of large numbers of women vaccinated earlier in pregnancy, is necessary”.
Viki Male, an immunologist working on pregnancy at Imperial College London, called it “a meaningless statistic” on Twitter, since it is not possible to complete a pregnancy in only three months and have it result in a live birth.
She wrote: “And presumably the only reason that rate isn't 100% is because some people vaccinated at the end of the 2nd trimester completed their pregnancies within 3 months by giving birth. So, from the data in this paper we can calculate the miscarriage rate on completed pregnancies as 12.6%. Or we can calculate the miscarriage rate on (probably) completed first trimesters as 8.5%. Both of these are no higher than normal. But the quoted rate of 84% is not the miscarriage rate. It just tells us that we can't go from the first trimester to giving birth to a healthy baby in three months. Which I think we all knew, right?”
What we know about Covid-19 vaccines and miscarriages - Full Fact
There’s no evidence that the vaccines are causing miscarriages.
Imagine the implications. My brother-in-law and his son work for a defense contractor and had to get vaccinated so they could continue working with others who also had to get vaccinated to work there. His wife and two other children did not get vaccinated but have been living with the two who were vaccinated and then got covid. Those who claim the unvaccinated are at risk of getting covid because of exposure from others with covid have been preaching an unsubstantiated false doctrine as seen in this real example. How many thousands of similar such cases will be needed to prove the democrat government-sponsored narratives are wrong?
Cultists rarely open their minds.
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over 20 people who are dbl vax have had the wuflu recently where i work and some un vaxed no difference in severity ,
that omnicron spreads like wildfire thank God it's not deadly
Study did not show 82% of pregnancies end in miscarriage after Covid vaccination - Full Fact
Study did not show 82% of pregnancies end in miscarriage after Covid vaccination.
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In an article entitled "The Power Abusers," Ronald Enroth demonstrates some of the tools used by cults to control their members:
Behavior Control: An individual’s associations, living arrangements, food, clothing, sleeping habits, finances, etc., are strictly controlled
Information Control: Cult leaders deliberately withhold or distort information, lie, propagandize, and limit access to other sources of information
Thought Control: Cult leaders use loaded words and language, discourage critical thinking, bar any speech critical of cult leaders or policies, and teach an “us vs. everyone else” doctrine
Emotional Control: Leaders manipulate their followers via fear (including the fear of losing salvation, and the fear of being shunned, etc.)