Mass shootings are incidents involving multiple victims of firearm-related violence. The precise inclusion criteria are disputed, and there is no broadly accepted definition.[2][3][4] One definition is an act of public firearm violence—excluding gang killings, domestic violence, or terrorist acts sponsored by an organization—in which a shooter kills at least four victims. Using this definition, one study found that nearly one-third of the world's public mass shootings between 1966 and 2012 (90 of 292 incidents) occurred in the United States.[5][6] Using a similar definition, The Washington Post records 163 mass shootings in the United States between 1967 and June 2019.[7]
30 Days, A beginning to the end of mass shootings.
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ok doser
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I wonder how many of those are workplace shootings
Kids today don't recognize the expression "to go postal"
Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
Now back to the threat of immediate death (police officers shooting a mass murderer to death during his rampage).
Why isn't that a deterrent?
So you believe that someone who goes on a shooting rampage and doesn't care if he's killed by responding police officers in the process wouldn't do so if he knew that he'd be swiftly executed after being caught?
Now back to the threat of immediate death (police officers shooting a mass murderer to death during his rampage).
Why isn't that a deterrent?
So you believe that someone who goes on a shooting rampage and doesn't care if he's killed by responding police officers in the process wouldn't do so if he knew that he'd be swiftly executed after being caught?
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
Swiftly, painfully and publicly?
Crying like a baby for his momma?
Yes, I think that in many cases, this would be a deterrent
There's nothing wrong with his formatting.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
There was when I quoted his full post
Going out gloriously (in his mind) in a hail of bullets, then being talked about like some sort of hero or tragedy case for a few days
VS
Being publicly swiftly and painfully executed and being shamed for what he did, and not even having his name mentioned, only his crime
...
Yeah, that's a no-brainer. He'd be deterred from committing the crime in the first place.
Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
So you believe that someone who goes on a shooting rampage and doesn't care if he's killed by responding police officers in the process wouldn't do so if he knew that he'd be swiftly executed after being caught?
So the knowledge of a swift, painful and public shooting by police officers towards someone going on a shooting rampage didn't deter the act, but being publicly executed would?
How about the suicide factor that plays a big role in these shootings? Remember we're talking about a culture of death where life isn't valued.
List of mass murderers/rampage murderers who committed suicide immediately after the act:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers
So you believe that someone who goes on a shooting rampage and doesn't care if he's killed by responding police officers in the process wouldn't do so if he knew that he'd be swiftly executed after being caught?
So the knowledge of a swift, painful and public shooting by police officers towards someone going on a shooting rampage didn't deter the act, but being publicly executed would?
How about the suicide factor that plays a big role in these shootings? Remember we're talking about a culture of death where life isn't valued.
List of mass murderers/rampage murderers who committed suicide immediately after the act:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
I just answered this
acw said:
I just answered this
Are you having a stroke?
acw said:
Obviously it's going to be difficult to publicly execute someone who has committed suicide
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
...how about the suicide factor that plays a big role in these shootings?
So much for the problem of rampage murders being solved by public executions.
...how about the suicide factor that plays a big role in these shootings?
So much for the problem of rampage murders being solved by public executions.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
So much for attempting to have a normal conversation with a froot loop:idunno:
kgov.com/suicide
The Dayton shooter had help getting his equipment. A friend made the purchases, and helped him hide it from his parents.
Apparently, he committed a crime applying for some of it, and he's being held. Denies knowing that when he bought body armor, a 100-round magazine, and a specialized receiver for the weapon, that his friend intended to use it.
Apparently, he committed a crime applying for some of it, and he's being held. Denies knowing that when he bought body armor, a 100-round magazine, and a specialized receiver for the weapon, that his friend intended to use it.
The "friend" should be tried, and if convicted, be executed for assisted murder.
A lot of this ends in "suicide by cop." Most of these guys don't intend to be captured; some of them lose their nerve or are horrified when they see the results of their attacks, and just surrender. To kill one's self, one has to be willing to do three things:
1. to die
2. to kill
3. to kill one's self.
All quite different things, and all with lots of of innate inhibitions.
The problem is the law, which requires proof of malice aforethought in killing someone. I don't think they have it at this time.
https://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=1303
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
...how about the suicide factor that plays a big role in these shootings?
So much for the problem of rampage murders being solved by public executions.
Meaning either they have an escape route planned or they were planning on dying either by being shot by responding police officers or taking their own lives via suicide.
Based on this wiki article that I posted earlier, the latter two seems to be a popular route with mass murderers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers
A swift execution upon conviction isn't a deterrent in a culture that embraces death.
...how about the suicide factor that plays a big role in these shootings?
So much for the problem of rampage murders being solved by public executions.
Meaning either they have an escape route planned or they were planning on dying either by being shot by responding police officers or taking their own lives via suicide.
Based on this wiki article that I posted earlier, the latter two seems to be a popular route with mass murderers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers
A swift execution upon conviction isn't a deterrent in a culture that embraces death.
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ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
You're (deliberately?) missing the critical difference
Pay attention
Scenario 1. Loser fantasizes about going out in a hail of bullets, heroically
Scenario 2. Loser realizes that it's more likely he'll be caught, tried, convicted and executed, swiftly, publicly and painfully, soiling himself, crying like a baby and mocked and ridiculed.
A swift execution upon conviction would be a product of a culture that embraces life.