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Yep, and we watched the whole thing unfold. The swamp is deep and wide.

That's very interesting. I wonder why.

Arthur, when they stopped counting in the middle of the night, it was clear there was monkey business going on.

It's hot, Arthur. lol

Do you have any proof of that?

Thank you, that helped immensely. Now to address the issue of the kind of grace that was available before Christ came. I submit it was not a fullness of Grace like we have now. John 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. Yes, he was justified by...

Dang, now I'm going to start thinking about brownies. But then we see this, so I guess I'm lost somewhere here. Romans 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded. So you're not saying the Jews were saved...

Not sure what JR was meaning. Good to see you again, Derf.

Our Bible is truly an amazing book. Thanks for sharing, Dan. You always come up with something good.

He wanted a people who loved Him without being forced to do so. First, He had to make it possible for them to get close to Him. That meant taking care of their sins. As you can imagine, God's plans are not man's.

Of course he could have created us with no free will, but He wasn't interested in that.

The Jews have always been God's elect nation. Their sins will be forgiven in the future, after the tribulation, and they will receive their Kingdom on earth. A physical people. Romans 11:25-27 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in...

He is working for the enemy, no doubt.

I like his picture in the blue dress better. lol

They simply cannot admit to themselves that they fell for the lie....from start to finish starting with the election. It'll take some major great awakening before they'll see.

You just can't make this stuff up. Or maybe they are making it up. In this day and age, do we really know?

I know Fauchi had his paws on both.

I'm not disagreeing with what you say, but I don't see how it pertains to what I think we're talking about. Grace is like oil and oil and water do not mix. Romans 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more...

Yes, a very different perspective.