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This is spoken ignorantly, for can you offer proof that readers and communities that value the UB have no spiritual fruit or knowledge in their lives? How much of the papers have you honestly read sincerely to understand the nature, quality and content of what is shared therein? The papers offer...

open to learn open to learn It serves a purpose, but the real fruit of such exchange remains to be seen. Service is rendered for those interested in the Urantia Book, to really discover its contribution and value. Any are free to accept or dismiss such upon a thorough investigation of the...

busting 'hell' wide open........ busting 'hell' wide open........ Now now Caino, be nice :) As I've shared,...applying the more 'peculiar' parts of the UB as your quote above to the situation is verging on 'comical', but I'll try to maintain my professional composure. Could the 'shaman'...

reality is all that is real reality is all that is real The 'myth' of hell has been exposed on previous threads, - furthermore we make our own 'heaven' or 'hell' by our own karmic conditioning, no matter what dimension we live in (here or hereafter, as if a 'hereafter' even exists, since all...

truth stands on its own..... truth stands on its own..... :thumb: Our 'God' is often the reflection of our own imagination, but the heart of Real God is truth, love, goodness, beauty, justice, mercy. pj

going beyond ...... going beyond ...... Thanks and welcome to the thread textman :) Aimiel and I have disagreed on points of doctrine and theology for years,....and is currently on my 'Ignore' list. A much needed break. One can only 'dialogue' so far with one whose 'disposition' makes such...

All about 'Religion' All about 'Religion' ~*~*~ Some of the most illuminative papers in the UB - The Social Problems of Religion Religion in Human Experience The Real Nature of Religion The Foundations of Religious Faith The Reality of Religious Experience It would do all well who are...

consider...... consider...... Truth is living. Truth is a fluent reality ever present. The above is pretty 'loaded'. The UB's rendering of the creation account (much more detailed than the Bibles) correlates with 'God' as the originator of all being concurrent with facts of science of the...

church teachings..... church teachings..... How do you know that all the next world will have is endless praise and worship? - there are many mansions in the Father's House (Universe of universes) and many different kinds of occupations and pasttimes. The RCC is just one branch of...

research research Interplay of personalities exists as long as relationship and movement of consciousness exists between such personalities. Where do you assume this and can you prove it? Again, where is this stated in scripture, and why is it to be 'assumed'? As shared earlier, Jesus...

Like before, your translation skills have missed the mark, for the statement concerned emphasizes that dogma or 'doctrine' can become static, dead, lifeless....while 'living faith' is dynamic, alive, empowering...since it is born of the Spirit. True to what Jesus teaches, only a living faith and...

events transpiring...... events transpiring...... It does not relate necessarily, since we're referring to an event transpiring within the mind of a personality, relating to other personalities. Time is a measurement of movement... as 'thoughts' (subjective or objective) relate to others...

the joy of learning the joy of learning For those who have followed the UB threads and read enough of the 'mortal evolutionary ascension plan', they will understand terms like 'morontial' (intermediate state between the physical and pure-spirit stages) and the many worlds souls will visit and...

Your former statement on 'time' still does not necessarily relate to the subject, since we were speaking about interaction within and between angelic personalities. Personalities experience 'time' as they relate to other personalities because 'relativity', 'movement' and 'inter-action' is...

sequence in eternity...... sequence in eternity...... It might behoove readers to consider that 'God' both experiences time and transcends time. 'God' is both within and without time. More on space-time relations Here. pj

space-time relations...... space-time relations...... Explanations on 'time' already shared. Any story related by mind, especially our religious mythologies which describe events transpiring, whether in higher spiritual spheres or worlds, a pre-existence, between personalities...have a time...

movements in space...... movements in space...... Hi bucky, Your assumption above is illogical, since all that transpires as a matter of relationship and movement does so in a context of 'time-perception', so that all decisions or movements of mind (thought-correlations) that relate to other...

The bold above is 'key'. Truth is not limited to any one given form or religious book or tradition for that matter. pj

God is the Heart of all God is the Heart of all BB apparently did not read the presentation. Until he learns what the UB actually is and what it teaches, his 'presumptions' are just that. I've given the recent guests to the thread ample resource links if they really want to learn, and readers...

Morning star Morning star We cover this more in the "Who or what is Lucifer?" thread :) The UB as shared earlier presents Lucifer as a different being than Satan, although many have confused the two as the same 'person'. There were certainly 'co-horts' if you will, in the Rebellion. Even if...