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Nothing to fear........ Nothing to fear........ It very much expands the knowledge of 'God', the cosmos, the heirarchy of the Sons of God, angels and other cosmic beings, the ascension-plan of evolutionary mortals, the life and teachings of Jesus, etc. (much more beyond the limited scope of...

Personality....in the cosmos........ Personality....in the cosmos........ Its not 'my' UB....its one tome of revealed information or revelation that any spiritualist can draw from in his religious studies and spiritual exploration, letting the content speak for itself - one wonderful...

eating flesh and blood? eating flesh and blood? 153:3.2 One of the visiting Pharisees, mounting a lampstand, shouted out this question: “You tell us that you are the bread of life. How can you give us your flesh to eat or your blood to drink? What avail is your teaching if it cannot be...

spiritually advancing......... spiritually advancing......... Remember such is symbolic, to be 'translated' spiritually. I am very much alive and well. I live, move and have my being in 'God'. 'God' is the very life, vitality and consciousness permeating my being. We already showed that...

set your mind free........ set your mind free........ Hi Caino,.....I agree. There is an exhaustion point in dialogue where there is no longer free exchange, constructive research, exploration of new ideas and possibilities, expansion of consciousness, etc. The issue of 'blood atonement' has...

No blood needed,...just 'God' No blood needed,...just 'God' Thats your 'assumption',....but far from it. Prayer, re-turning to Spirit, repentance, worship, meditation, and other such gestures which re-establish loyalty relations to Deity (of that which affects real communion) are all that is...

no need for bloodshed....... no need for bloodshed....... Thats your belief, and not held by a good percentage of sentient beings on the planet. Recognizing that atonement can be acheived without a blood-sacrifice does not necessary imply a 'trampling' of Jesus blood underfoot since the...

God IS God IS No need to respond to any of this, as we have time and time again, but for the sake of readers really interesting in learning,....we keep the thread open. 'Atonement' if we define it as being in a state of 'at-one-ment'....is just that,...and can be afforded by the soul...

lets be nice....... lets be nice....... Research again. Paul claims he received the 'eucharist' from the Lord as he described it to the Corinthians. Other scholars reject the gospels as being without error, ommissions, interpolations, additions, etc....besides there being inconsistencies...

Remembering the life-giving gospel of Jesus....... Remembering the life-giving gospel of Jesus....... We've already addressed - blood-free atonement It is probable that the so called 'eucharist' originated with Paul with its inclusion-concept of blood-atonement, since HE claimed to have...

beyond bloodshed..... beyond bloodshed..... I agree....and it comes down to the faith of the individual believer receiving the elements and the context-emphasis of the faith-community in which such are received. It just so happens that blood-atonement concepts where carried over from earlier...

as one believes....... as one believes....... Well,....any 'mind' capable of recognizing the 'symbols' and relating to what they represent. If want to say 'consciousness' is relating to these symbols and imbibing them back into itself as some kind of 'religious experence' or 'spiritual...

Love requires nothing but surrender........ Love requires nothing but surrender........ We must remember that the physical representations are recognized by the mind 'symbolically' and it could not be otherwise for anyone to know or relate to the 'elements' being used for whatever ritual. I...

mental playground.............. mental playground.............. The UB presents God's abode in the very center of the Grand Universe....with 7 superuniverses surrounding the Isle of Paradise. UB Fellowship I used to collect Marvel Comics,....so enjoy entertainment for the mind. If one...

Learn..... Learn..... I was speaking of the Edgar Jone's article - 'The Eucharist not from Jesus'. Traditional-orthodox Jewish customs and other schools also reject a 'blood-atonement' sacrifice associated with the ministry of the Messiah, or the 'Christ' as a means of 'salvation' or...

This verse is dealt with in the former article links provided. Note that this verse of eating and drinking Jesus body are only found in John, and even still...they are to be taken symbolically,....as only the Spirit gives life. The 'bread' is the spiritual food, living word of 'God'....which...

Interesting that this 'bread' and 'wine' was a covenant meal prototype back then continuing to modern day Jewish meal traditions, which were later invested with various religious meanings and 'interpretations'. pj

My former commentary and direct reference-article deals 'specifically' with the Eucharist NOT being from Jesus. - all the proofs, logics and presentation for this, which also confirms that it originated from Paul are clearly laid out. The UP (urantia papers) agree in principle that Jesus used...

Paul's 'eucharist'........ Paul's 'eucharist'........ The Eucharist - Not from Jesus Do your research - the 'eucharist' was a developed innovation, and 'formulated' by Paul which he claimed to receive 'from the Lord'. Also you don't know that the canonized gospels were actually written by...

blood-free atonement........ blood-free atonement........ But what if it could be proven that the 'eucharistic' passages in the Lord's Supper account are 'interpolations', and that Jesus did not say such things. It would at least be intellectually honest to research this to see if such a view...