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Atonement without blood...... Atonement without blood...... All God requires is repentance, since it is only the change of mind (inward transformation of consciousness) that sins are atoned for and reparation is made. The metaphor of 'blood' has its applications symbolically as far as its...

FOGBOM - a wonderful concept...... FOGBOM - a wonderful concept...... I don't see where the universal principle of The Fatherhood of God & Brotherhood of Man is discounted here, beyond being a matter of presupposition and 'interpretation'. Seems like this misses the mark. While passages...

Cork it Petunia........ Cork it Petunia........ What you can do towards the passages this is a response to is show specifically what you find wrong or disagreeable, if you'd like to actually engage in a dialogue on the subject matter, beside continue on with your knee-jerk reactions and usual...

truth to consider....... truth to consider....... First to address to address a part of PPS's post which this is a response to ( I have him on ignore, but will from time to time address a part of his posts that turn up with those responding to something he wrote, since I will not take him off...

Back to blood sacrifices...... Back to blood sacrifices...... The rebuilding of the temple will be interesting if it ever unfolds, as some see it as a 'key' feature in the end-time drama. This puts the 'atonement-doctrine' in a rather 'precarious' position as animals will be sacrificed to...

clueless clueless You're clearly 'clueless' about what the Urantia Papers are about (most importantly the principles values and meanings it espouses), for starters, - all else you're spouting is spoon-fed apologetics and bibliolatry. But keep the good work up in keeping the thread in the...

troll spray....... troll spray....... ~*~*~ Very funny Caino. However, I suspect posting the troll funnies adds to the 'feeding', since some have not taken a serious or informed approach on the subject here, let alone at least taking the points of 'theology' contained therein as a...

The truth on UFO connections...... The truth on UFO connections...... Your piece-meal apologetic response proves my point. Also we see you didn't even bother to answer my question. Since you haven't even read the first 12 papers which lays down the theological foundation of the entire corpus...

Educate yourself, then you can properly 'relate'........ Educate yourself, then you can properly 'relate'........ Can you share what in that quote of Jesus explanation is unreasonable about some souls having no desire for God or not being ready to hear about the gospel? Read it over and show...

One Ocean, many streams....... One Ocean, many streams....... Okay smartie pants,...care to share those similarities? Be specific. Help links: Urantia Book Fellowship Is Urantia a New Religion? ~*~*~ Compare with - Church of Scientology This could apply to any religious cult...

What the papers teach............. What the papers teach............. If your referring to a traditional-orthodox Christian interpretation of Jesus being 'God the Son' within 'The Trinity' (as they conceive or define such),...then yes....Jesus would somehow be 'equal' to the Holy Spirit...

correcting perspectives...... correcting perspectives...... This is all over the map, so not sure where to start. First of all, the Trinitarian concept of the 'Godhead' expounded in the UB (being the 'Paradise Trinity') does not deny that Jesus as a Creator-Son is subordinate to the Universal...

Find out for yourself...... Find out for yourself...... The Torah, New Testament, Koran, Upanishads, Sutras, Apocrypha, and whole array of various religious writings are chock full of wonderful stories, some more fanciful than others. And logically so. How can you tell whether something is...

Paper 7 - Relation of the Eternal Son to the Universe Paper 7 - Relation of the Eternal Son to the Universe ~*~*~ Continuing our chronological video series from Paper 6 (portal site here) ~*~*~ Dofzf5vi4CU ~*~*~

learn first, then discuss....... learn first, then discuss....... Not if seen from the perspective of the revelators, understanding their explanation with intelligence, if you would comprehend their explanation for what its worth, and then let the record speak for itself. Its no more...

Reality Reality How else does one receive revelation except being open to the Spirit of God within him? Does not the Spirit of God teach, lead and guide his children? An 'interpretation' of anything is natural as the mind relates to and discovers the meaning of anything, yet that mind if...

Read the papers for yourself, if interested....... Read the papers for yourself, if interested....... Wonderful, you have over 190 pages of discussion on it here, with information-articles, commentary and direct online access to the papers themselves for your own reading. Its all available...

The Religion of the Spirit is fundamental........ The Religion of the Spirit is fundamental........ While differences of religious culture, tradition and nomemclature exist,...the one unifying power and presence behind them all is the universal reality of 'God' Himself, who is the Father of...

Adam & Eve serving as 'biologic uplifters'..... Adam & Eve serving as 'biologic uplifters'..... Hi Caino and all,....the story of 'Cain' is wonderful, - do you know of any other accounts that might correlate with/confirm the part of Eve finding another man (outside the garden) "pleasing to...

Sons of God....... Sons of God....... According to the UB, yes....Jesus expounds this 'good news' quite extensively in Part 4. - its 'center-piece' is not a vicarious blood-atonement, but is a gospel rooted in 'faith' in the 'Fatherhood of God & Brotherhood of Man', a living dynamic of loving...