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  1. freelight

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    Epistemology................ Epistemology................ We've covered this here and elsewhere. A principle, idea or concept is true by itself or within a certain context where its value and meaning is accentuated. Truth is truth wherever you find it, in whatever book. A human sanction on a...
  2. freelight

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    culture clubs....... culture clubs....... And many Jewish counter-missionary groups take them to task on it. Most of the NT was written on the basis of making Jesus fulfill the messianic prophecies of the OT so that they are in a double-pickle since they need the OT to substantiate the claims...
  3. freelight

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    ;) I refer to the traditional-orthodox evangelical christian blood-atonement theory, with its quirks. We've already exposed that belief as just a 'belief', outdated and primitive. All can return to God/truth via 'repentance'.....a bloody sacrifice is not necessary. I'm merely showing the solid...
  4. freelight

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    birds of a feather....... birds of a feather....... Said one macaw to another. You are merely parroting traditional christian revisioning and reading Jesus back into old testament scriptures applying messianic passages to him. No orthodox Jew accepts such. See Uri Yosefs article on 'Messiah...
  5. freelight

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    stay on topic stay on topic Dont forget, our thread here is about the Urantia Papers. We've already addressed the primitive and obsolete concept of blood atonement....many times here. It is erroneous. See here pj
  6. freelight

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    The essence of worship...... The essence of worship...... Excellent question. The papers expound on 'worship' being central to our engagement with God. It is referred to 503 times in the papers here. 'Worth-ship' (worship) is the estimation and awe of that which is of a true or higher...
  7. freelight

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    Wrong. We are to worship God alone. God is Spirit......and more. pj
  8. freelight

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    Ive addressed your concerns on this page here and elswhere. Its not the packaging, its the content that matters. The principles, truths, precepts, morals, ethic, ideals and concepts in a religious book stand on their own value and merit. Review previous commentary. What matters is the spiritual...
  9. freelight

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    Think for yourself......... Think for yourself......... God is no respecter of persons (Jewish or otherwise). Being our Universal Father I doubt hes a racist....although race and genetic variations have their place in the unfolding evolution of humanity each having a special place in...
  10. freelight

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    Jesus own teaching......... Jesus own teaching......... Your generalized assumption doesn't hold...since Paul taught his own gospel given to him by personal revelation, his apostleship being his own claim. See: Research on Paul You'll be hard pressed to show evidence that John the baptist...
  11. freelight

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    'God' is not limited to a book, or a person for that matter. If you educate yourself of Jesus teaching in Part 4 you'll find his teaching about the kingdom of heaven correlates perfectly with his teaching recorded in the gospels, they being understood in the appropriate context. God doesnt mind...
  12. freelight

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    We've already been over this here. Paul's gospel is irrelevant if we are speaking exclusively of Jesus's gospel message anyways. It is unnecessary to conclude the two as the same. pj
  13. freelight

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    God's will is universal...... God's will is universal...... The doing of God's will is not limited to a reading of the Bible, since the doing of God's will is wholly promoted in the UB and other religious texts, so your excluding other texts is pointless. As far as your quote from John is...
  14. freelight

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    I dont think Caino acts as if that passage is 'scripture', its just a quote from the UB. Any writing can be regarded as 'scripture' by personal opinion, cult-ural acceptance, consensus, traditional assumptions, etc. Writings are only held sacred by the individual or cult who accepts them...
  15. freelight

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    One primal reality at heart................ One primal reality at heart................ A beautiful thing it is. Truth itself, as we're reflecting...is innate to itself, being intuited in the very heart of our being, non-different from it.....something recognized even faintly within, because...
  16. freelight

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    Image and substance....... Image and substance....... :) - its all a story. Such is life; such is creation....a moving picture of images, impressions and appearances. We can look at all the stories and interpretations out there, and find which serves as teachers of the best principles, those...
  17. freelight

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    goo goo theology...... goo goo theology...... Far from it, since I'm ever continuing to learn, continually researching my own views, opinions, beliefs, knowing that all conditional knowledge or assumptions are subject to change, revision, modification. Well,....the subject of the actual...
  18. freelight

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    theosophical aspects in the UB? theosophical aspects in the UB? The first 5 papers (you can skip the Foreward if you like, but it is an excellent preface covering fundamental terms and their meanings within the context of the total-cosmology being consistent therein) is a relatively easy...
  19. freelight

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    criterion of proof........ criterion of proof........ ~*~*~ Nice to have some creative dialogue going on, better if all parties contribute to keep it going in a positive, engaging, interesting direction tapping into new realms or dimensions, enhancing/expanding the discussion onwards. Such...
  20. freelight

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    reconsider...... reconsider...... Don't forget, you can reach 'home' without first touching 'first base' here. The content of the UB or any other religious work is open for any to discover for themselves. Courage is a wonderful commodity. Fear not. As far as really investigating Jesus, if...
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