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The eternal covenant is speaking of the covenant with Israel. I'm not sure where you get the idea of it being a covenant among the person's of the Godhead. I'm pretty sure the covenants are all with the nation of Israel. Romans 9 speaks of this.. 3 For I could wish that myself were...

True, there are many mysteries, but God is able to reveal them to us through the Holy Spirit....as we diligently read and study His word. Can we ever grasp the greatness of God...not until we see Him face to face would be my guess. 1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery...

Hillary was caught with her pants down, and she was stomped to boot.

Artie, you've been watching the mainstream media again. ;)

I'm wondering where you find the "Covenant of Redemption" in scripture?

Her brother says she will never sing, but to have some years knocked off her time for coorperating, has got to be mighty tempting. I agree, Tam, I'm hoping they're all caught and get put away.

Obedience was required before the cross. Faith plus works were required in the past and will be again in the future.

Ah, that must be it. Thanks RD. :)

Sorry if I'm not falling for that malarkey, Arthur, but it's great to see you anyway. :giggle:

Yep, and we watched the whole thing unfold. The swamp is deep and wide.

That's very interesting. I wonder why.

Arthur, when they stopped counting in the middle of the night, it was clear there was monkey business going on.

It's hot, Arthur. lol

Do you have any proof of that?

Thank you, that helped immensely. Now to address the issue of the kind of grace that was available before Christ came. I submit it was not a fullness of Grace like we have now. John 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. Yes, he was justified by...

Dang, now I'm going to start thinking about brownies. But then we see this, so I guess I'm lost somewhere here. Romans 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded. So you're not saying the Jews were saved...

Not sure what JR was meaning. Good to see you again, Derf.

Our Bible is truly an amazing book. Thanks for sharing, Dan. You always come up with something good.

He wanted a people who loved Him without being forced to do so. First, He had to make it possible for them to get close to Him. That meant taking care of their sins. As you can imagine, God's plans are not man's.