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Under condemnation, not dead. In the same way that "sin came alive". You see here no more "condemnation". Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Of course the flesh is no help, and I don't...

He's a rat. Always has been, but this just proves it.

That's when he received his death sentence. He didn't die physically, and he didn't die spiritually, just like we don't die spiritually....else how can we respond to the Gospel message? Luke 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor...

I don't think Adam died that day, but he did come under God's judgment of death.

Well, I'm a pretty concrete thinker. So, maybe a separate thread on miracles would be good. Me neither. It just popped out, I guess. Well, He gave Adam and Eve one commandment. Noah was told to build the ark. Oh, and Noah had his conscience with the laws of God written on his heart. So...

That says nothing about softening someone's heart.

He's downright scary. The entire world has turned upside down since the "election", so there is something deep and ugly about this whole thing. If this isn't tribulation and wrath, it sure is getting close to it.

Oh dear. Small bites are so much easier to digest. o_O

Yes, but God wouldn't want to, would He? It isn't logical.

If God softens everyone's heart, why don't they all believe it? Surely they have a choice to believe that good news or not?

So you're not saying there were no miracles, are you? God didn't really part the red sea, for example? Well, God was very strict, so I'm not sure I'm seeing the comparison. Of course God was dealing with Israel as a physical nation. Okay Looks like reinstatement of the law to me...

Works are physical...believing is not. And at least one of God's covenants with Israel was an eternal covenant He said He would NEVER break. Sounds physical to me. Judges 2:1 And an angel of the Lord came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said, I made you to go up out of Egypt, and have brought...

Well, it's certainly not necessary for salvation. The obedience of faith is not like obedience to the law. It's being led by the Spirit of God, and trusting in the Lord instead of ourselves.

I'm not really sure what to say to all this. This idea that God is progressively doing anything is so odd. I'm sure whatever God does is perfect for what He means to accomplish from the beginning. Yes, in early times, lots of things were different. Miracles and God's means of interacting...

This is what I know. I read and studied the Bible for nearly nearly forty years, always amazed that I couldn't make the gospels and Paul's letters fit. I just put it up on a shelf, thinking someday I'd understand why there was such a difference. The day I read this verse, I realized I'd been...

Rightly dividing....you certainly earn your name, RD.

Well, let's just discuss how God relates in a personal way to humans. You'll admit it's changed over time, I imagine?

Seriously, it took days and days to get the votes to line up the way they wanted. They're finding big errors even as we speak, and the mainstream media is ignoring it all. The swamp is deep and wide, Artie. You're no better off over the pond.

But they didn't believe in the death burial and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ, so they were not baptized by the Spirit into the body of Chrsit. Consider this Arial, you aren't willing to even consider other than what you are firmly attached to. So are you any more willing to keep an...