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Eph 1:13 KJV In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, So we see the first step is hearing the gospel, then comes trust/believe and sealed with the Holy...

Oh boy, that would be something alright, and right in the direction we've been going. Over the cliff and into the drink.

How do I nominate this for Post of the Day? JR, you do it for me, please. Beautiful, simply beautiful.

How about just taking scripture as it's written. At face value.

I think this one is referring to the end day judgment where people will be judged on their "deeds". Romans 2:5-7 5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; Who will render to every...

I think this one is referring to the end day judgment where people will be judged according to their "deeds". Romans 2:5-7 5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; Who will render...

How could God owe them if that's what God required of them?

Righteousness didn't come from the law, but God still required works before the fullness of God's Grace came in via the Cross. That puts me in mind of the blood over the doorposts. Could be it's late at night. ;)

Yeah, it's very interesting. In every scenario, the believers are raised first....but every man in his own order. That phrase keeps coming back to me for some reason. 1 Cor. 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ...

Looks to me like it's the second part of the process. Died, then gathered, then buried. Gen. 25:8-9 Then Abraham gave up the ghost, and died in a good old age, an old man, and full of years; and was gathered to his people. And his sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him in the cave of Machpelah...

Great question, and exactly the one I've been pondering since you were talking about what gospel Peter preached. I'll just give my 2 cents worth, because I know you care. Call it a guess. I think there was salvation by faith plus works for all time periods before and after the "church...

What about the two witnesses' resurrection?

Hopefully, more people will step forward to help the cops. I can't believe the bravery of those who are still on the job.

Me? No, it's my job to preach the gospel. What do I have to repent of? There is no other way to make Paul's teaching, including the Gospel of Grace, line up with the rest of scripture without first figuring out that God had different plans for different people and times. It's basic 101...

You doubt Jesus would be happy to hear He is NOT the true Israel? Do you have a scripture that says He is? Why would you say that? It doesn't even make sense. I did think it through, so you're actually falsely accusing me. Why would you do that.? I actually thought it made total sense...

Why don't you stop for a minute and read what YOU write. Instead of mocking people who speak of dispensations, why can't you at least give them the consideration you do from what you read on the internet. It's like you set yourself up as an enemy and plug your ears to whatever we say. I...

You can't even get this right. The "shoe" you spew your venom against is clearly beyond your comprehension. You "realize" nothing, but your ego won't allow you to shut your mouth and learn. That's sad. Really sad.

No, it simply means that Jesus is LIFE. Col. 1:16-17 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all...

Taking the Bible as it's written seems to be the hardest thing for so many people. Man's ability to explain away the truth is unlimited.

Why don't you just admit that you've been searching the web for ideas to present, and you happened upon a dispensationalist without knowing it. Clete wasn't changing the topic, he was revealing where you got one of your notions.