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Yeppers. God made a covenant of promise with Abraham that he would be the father of many nations. The immediate seed of Abe by promise was Isaac, called only begotten son. The seed that fulfilled was Christ, called only begotten Son.

Amen. I haven't listened to that song in a while. Thanks.

I have wondered why a sign was specified that only applied to men rather than some sort of sign that would apply to all (male and female). Is the sign supposed to represent removal of the flesh? Paul applies the sign of circumcision to the death of Jesus on the cross and baptism His burial. He...

So what did physical circumcision of the flesh actually do for anyone? Did it set them apart as God's covenant people? Did it make people obedient to God? For some, yes, since God said it was a sign of the people of Israel and commanded they do so. But for other nations (such as the Egyptians)...

Hold on a minute. I did not tell RD to go somewhere else, nor did I insult him. I merely said that my preference was to discuss with people that already know the scriptures. But RD did insult me by calling me dishonest, which no where in this thread have I been dishonest.

Then why ask for scripture about Paul tying circumcision and baptism to the cross & resurrection if you already know of it???????? There was nothing dishonest about my post.

It's not an insult, it's my preference.

If you can't make heads or tails of the OP it is probably best you move on to another thread.

I would rather discuss it with folks that already know the Bible.

The Wonderful Name Wonderful (adjective form and noun form of the same Hebrew word) Judges 13 ESV (18) And the angel of the LORD said to him, “Why do you ask my name, seeing it is wonderful?” Adjective form. Spoken of the angel of the Lord. The only other place the adjective form appears in...

The apostle Paul ties circumcision and baptism together (in the spiritual sense) to the cross & resurrection. So since both are tied together in that way then can what is said about one also be said about the other as well? Since scripture says we must understand the earthly in order to...

Yep context matters. And the context is a "divine" council meeting of YHWH among other gods. Right. They will die like men. Imaginary entities or carved hunks of wood or stone can't die like men, but rebellious spirit beings can die like men because both will suffer the same death in the lake...

I've already made the case from scripture that there are other gods in the divine assemblies that YHWH holds with them to make decisions or to pass judgement upon. Some here can see it, some here don't. You are one of the latter.

You don't see it because it didn't happen.

All of those things have been done for centuries without a government forcibly taking money out of everyone's pocket of which a lot doesn't even go directly to the victims and is spent on unnecessary programs. We have created a Robin Hood government. Robin Hood was a thief. Shouldn't be...

That you misrepresent what I say doesn't phase me considering the source. You do that a lot to a lot of people. You build a strawman of what you think one means and then demand that they defend your strawman accusation.

And Paul calls him a god (2 Cor 4:4).

You are the one that is in denial. And no goalpost has moved except by you. That other gods exist is not fantasy as scripture plainly reveals. How can one think that YHWH sits in a council meeting with fantasy entities that don't exist or with carved hunks of wood or stone????? Fantasy entities...

Hoping is willing to sacrifice a portion of his wealth so that other's needs can be met and sees his taxation as a means to do that so from his perspective it is a good thing. So it's not that hard to understand what perspective Hoping is coming from and that his heart's intent is good. But as...

You have refuted nothing because it cannot be refuted that there are multiple times scripture speaks of other gods besides the Most High God, YHWH. You are delusional to think that because there are inferior gods that it could possibly demote the Most High God, YHWH, in any way.