Ask Mr. Religion

ok I asked Beloved57 that question. Let see the responses :
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2416913&postcount=1208

Well I found it amusing coming from someone so drunk in the Pelagian heresy (among other things)

I nearly noted that new age could be readily applied to a few of his notions, but decided not to given we're engaging with relative civility at present. We'll see how it goes...:think:

I had the same general reaction to the two threads in question. Now in the art discussion he evidences a wider net, but his usage is frequently the sort of convolution you find with people who haven't gotten their heads around the vocabulary. oly: That said, when he abandons that pose there's something a bit interesting going on.

I suspect he'd benefit greatly from the education he disdains for whatever reason. Sadly, he'll likely continue along the self directed path, which can only continue to leave him under developed in fairly important ways that will impact the rest. A little like someone working their forearms and deltoids strenuously, while ignoring their abs and biceps for reasons of interest or understanding.

Ah, I see Pate has formally pronounced judgement on you. Odd how he has not ended in your ignore list yet

Have you read much of N/A when he assumes...attempts the academic tone? For a moment I think I almost understand how it feels to be him in general. :shocked: If he'd simplify and pay attention to how he uses language there might be a point in there...somewhere. He's remarkably elitist about art for someone who disdains the notion in other settings. :think: It couldn't have anything to do with his want, surely.

You and Pate, eh? Who'll be arguing his side of it... I'm getting the popcorn ready. :chew:

There are errors in the bible...

Pateism has you

Thank you for that very informative reply. It'll be useful to me as I think about the contents more in depth.
Do you happen to know anyone else who would be willing to work with me through some of the issues you mentioned (particularly the list of heresies)? Also, would you be comfortable with me citing the contents of your reply in my discussion thread?

Hi. Would you consider helping me to understand the Trinity better? I have a thread called Trinity Logic where I discuss my reservations. Since so many people consider the Trinity a salvation issue, while I consider it just a theological description of the Godhead, I thought it important to settle some of my lingering questions in a single thread. Post #250 gives a summary of the debate so far.

I hope our previous disagreement hasn't turned you off from dialogue. Since I don't purposefully align with any particular codification or set of doctrines, there are many things I only have partial confidence in, and things I will swing back and forth a bit on until they are further settled in my mind. How to most accurately describe God is one of those things. I may have contradicted myself in the thread, and there is a bit of evolution in my thoughts. I think if nothing else you would be a lot of help in clarifying what I actually believe the Bible teaches.

I agree. He has done that in my Creationism and Evolution threads and lately in my Intelligent Design thread as well. It is annoying.

Nice to hear things are well

What broke the camel's back for you with crys? Feel free to PM if you want.

Hi there! How have things been going for you?

I don't know how any of this can be laid at zoo's feet. It was the outrageous behavior of SD, followed by the less than reputable defense of she who must not be named lest her noggin expand that was the wellspring. Goofy...Else, I begin to suspect MoMo will simply disappear down an ever expanding number of rabbit holes and that my effort in that may be fruitless...but then it is increasingly difficult for me to sit idly by on those sort of points. :think: :idunno:

Very much appreciated...some of your suggested reading has helped me focus and confirm a few things I'd been bouncing around in a rougher form and without sufficient anchoring. I'm still struggling with the experience of my conversion set against my intellectual preferences regarding the mechanism. AA needled me a bit recently on that point and I was far from satisfied with my answer, though he let me be...I suspect out of kindness.

I wonder if you'll get the oddly cobbled Plato/Weil answer...he can't distinguish methodological approach from ideological context. It's a tale tell sign of someone who hasn't had the benefit of serious academic discipline, to my mind.

New Age critical thinking...thats a new one

Pate is the most religious anti-religious zealot I've ever encountered. And his penchant for vain repetition is nothing short of legendary.

That said, he makes for a fun diversion every now and again.

Well, at least now you have it on record for when more instances of Pateism come up in the future

Well, I thought my upcoming summertime fun was all planned, but...

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2397996#post2397996

;)

AMR