You're a cop and you should shoot a fleeing suspect when he has your...........
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rainee
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I'm not a cop but I think I would shoot at him over the last thirteen on the list
but would I shoot him eight times over all of the last thirteen? I don't think so.
Also you didn't ask how many times I would shoot over heard and then around the ground at his feet and so forth...
but would I shoot him eight times over all of the last thirteen? I don't think so.
Also you didn't ask how many times I would shoot over heard and then around the ground at his feet and so forth...
if you shoot anywhere except center mass, you run the risk of stray bullets hitting non-involved citizens
and i wouldn't be surprised if slager's training involved emptying the whole clip if the decision to fire has been made
looks to me like slager made that decision while he was reaching for his sidearm, as scott was wrestling the taser away from him
rainee
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Hi Res, please don't compare me to a real live cop! I'm thinking like a citizen and hoping no one wants to mess with me since I believe in shooting guns.
rainee
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Some one told me long time ago you can't let others challenge your position - whether of authority or anything else.
That if they do and you let them get away with it, it will only get worse.
Years a ago a social worker had a young woman cut her blouse during an assigned meeting. So thinking quickly the SW cut the young woman's blouse. Turns out everything got better and the SW was actually able to help the young woman.
Cops may have an unwritten rule like that from long ago but was this situation like that?
well, unfortunately we have a truncated video on which to base our opinions - just like with rodney king - what was seen by the public was the cops beating him like a redheaded stepchild
what went unseen was his (rodney king's) drunken driving capers, his resisting arrest and struggling with the officers - iow, the precipitating factors that led to the event that got everybody outraged
i'll ask you (heck, i'll ask everybody) - you're in slager's shoes - this guy rabbits from his car, you chase him and deploy your only non-lethal weapon, which the perp takes away from you
what do you do in that instant?
do you sit down and start crying "no fair! that was my taser!"
do you let him resume running and wave bye-bye?
do you resume chasing him, determined to stop him with your bare hands?
or do you in that instant pull your sidearm and fire?
what went unseen was his (rodney king's) drunken driving capers, his resisting arrest and struggling with the officers - iow, the precipitating factors that led to the event that got everybody outraged
i'll ask you (heck, i'll ask everybody) - you're in slager's shoes - this guy rabbits from his car, you chase him and deploy your only non-lethal weapon, which the perp takes away from you
what do you do in that instant?
do you sit down and start crying "no fair! that was my taser!"
do you let him resume running and wave bye-bye?
do you resume chasing him, determined to stop him with your bare hands?
or do you in that instant pull your sidearm and fire?
i would have shot him
i wouldn't have picked up the taser and dropped it next to the body
and i wouldn't claim that i had performed cpr
the problem is that he's already demonstrated himself to be a risk to the public, by running and by assaulting an officer
if you let him go, what kind of a firestorm do you suppose would ensue if he injures an innocent?
rainee
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No, I agree with you. But the situation was against the cop stopping him. The man was getting away, period.
I think he would not be able to solve the problem then - even if the guy did do harm after.
However, I repeat - there is always later.
Maybe the opportunity would avail itself to stop this guy getting away with such things?
But the Rodney King incident reminds me, can't go too far even later.
Gotta be wise and strong.
i've heard the cbc radio coverage of the beating in california - haven't looked for it online yet - surprised nobody posted about it yet
i've got a monster final coming up in a few weeks and should have my head into that and not this
rainee
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Hope you rock it, Res!
(Sorry for my big sharing of opinions. I would not make a good cop or authority)
Keep chasing. Call for back-up. :idunno:
Resisting arrest isn't the same as being a thread to anyone else.
We still need more info on the particulars but most Tasers from what I gather still operate as contact stun guns after the dart shooting part has been discharged.
So, chasing a guy that has your stun gun? What do you do when you catch him? Besides get stunned.
But running away with your Taser opens a whole list of problems. Police forces aren't exactly in the business of handing those things out. If he goes on to hurt another officer or anyone else it's on that cops head.
So to prevent him from possibly tasing another officer you shoot him. I don't buy it.
And that's your opinion.
imo, slager made the decision to shoot when he reached for his sidearm - when scott was getting control of the taser
it was the correct decision to make in the immediate circumstance - he had deployed his non-lethal weapon, it had failed to stop the perp, the perp wrestled it from his control, he reached for his lethal weapon
and you don't pull your sidearm unless you're going to use it
you don't hand over the taser and pull out your glock just to show the perp how pretty it is
in those less than two seconds between him reaching for it and beginning to fire, about the only thing scott could have done to defuse the situation would have been to throw himself on the ground with his hands over his head
but no, he was trying to control the situation
by running
cops don't like it when perps try to control the situation
it makes them escalate the level of force used
remember eric garner?
"this ends today!"
he was trying to control the situation
and if you catch up to him, then what?
you can hear sirens in the background
how do you figure?
more importantly, should a cop who has no idea of the motivations behind this guy's actions , stop while struggling with the perp to ponder that?