Your boat (T or F)

Your boat (T or F)

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john w

john w

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chrysostom said:
disagree

you can only see works

it is the only way to demonstrate your faith
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So, works are only that what God's creatures see exhibited, through what a person does, with his arms, legs.........................................................., not what the LORD God sees done, or sees in the heart?
 
Lon

Lon

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musterion said:
Faith and works are the two oars by which a man pulls his boat to heaven's safe harbor. Agree or disagree?
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1Pe 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
1Pe 1:4 to an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, kept in heaven for you,
1Pe 1:5 who by God's power are being guarded through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

 
Crucible

Crucible

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If God has selected you as part of the elect you will have faith, and through that faith you will produce works. Works are the smoke to the flame of faith, which ignites by what God has ordained. If you are predestined, you will return to your faith even if you leave it for a time and thus were saved from the beginning. (what 'osas' really is, not all that made up nonsense people come up with)

This is how Reformed doctrine works- God doesn't make mistakes; you don't fall in and out of grace.

The intellectual sin of 'faith and works' is that it makes one able to compensate faith with works and vice versa- where one lacks, you simply fortify the other.

And God cannot be bought, even with a side of faith.
 
musterion

musterion

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Crucible said:
If God has selected you as part of the elect you will have faith, and through that faith you will produce works. Works are the smoke to the flame of faith, which ignites by what God has ordained. If you are predestined, you will return to your faith even if you leave it for a time and thus were saved from the beginning. (what 'osas' really is, not all that made up nonsense people come up with)

This is how Reformed doctrine works- God doesn't make mistakes; you don't fall in and out of grace.

The intellectual sin of 'faith and works' is that it makes one able to compensate faith with works and vice versa- where one lacks, you simply fortify the other.

And God cannot be bought, even with a side of faith.
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All men have the capacity for the faith without which it's impossible to please Him.
 
heir

heir

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God could not, in the ages to come, shew the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us through Christ Jesus if anyone so much as wiggled their finger to pull themself into the boat.

Ephesians 2:4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,

Ephesians 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)

Ephesians 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

Ephesians 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Ephesians 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
 
T

Timotheos

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chrysostom said:
you could use a sail
but
you still have control over your boat

you have to sail your boat
you can't expect someone to do it for you

the wind is free
and
you can use it
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:wave:
"The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit."
John 3:8 ESV
 
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