YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN, John 3:7

john w

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I see that you are still into the Old Testament. This is why you are as spiritually dead as a rock.
Catch that brilliant response, by Pate?

I picked you apart, and TOL sees your auto-pilot spam, that says nothing, that you litter to everyone, that challenges your demonic assertion, spamming isolated verses, with no explanation.
 

john w

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Pate asserts that Christ did not die for his/anyone's sins, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV.....2000+ years ago, as they were all in the future, by definition, as He did not die to pay for his/anyone's sin debt, penalty, IOU, which IS INCURRED BY BREAKING GOD'S OWN EXISTING LAW, by definition, as there is no law defining the transgression/offense/sin, and resulting penalty, for which He might die, and Christ did not take his/anyone's place, in judgment, condemnation, AS HIS/OUR SUBSTITUTE, taking that judgment/condemnation/wrath, in our place, per Romans 8:3 KJV, as there is no law, to bring about judgment, condemnation, wrath. He denies that Christ died for our sins, and denies the doctrine of substitutionary atonement, asserting that God's "solution" is to destroy the law, so that there is no sin debt incurred, or judgment/condemnation possible. Thus, the LORD God could have destroyed His own law, from the third heaven, not needing to send His Christ to die. And devil child Pate cannot give us one scripture, as to how the Lord Jesus Christ's destroying of the law affects justice, as Pate perverts God's justice, as no scripture testifies to how destroying the law maintains, affirms the justice of God-he made it up. The scripture does testify as to why the Saviour need die, by blood, in our place.........propitiation, reconciliation, identification, substitution.....Justice served.


Pate rejects all of that, in his wicked perverting the gospel of Christ, as a pawn, shill of the devil, perverting the justice of God.

It is that simple.
 

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Paul writing to believers:

1Co 8:12 KJV But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ.

How can they "sin" if there is "no law"?
 

Robert Pate

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Paul writing to believers:

1Co 8:12 KJV But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ.

How can they "sin" if there is "no law"?


In God's eyes the Christian is perfect and complete "In Christ" Colossians 2:10.

In his own eyes and in the eyes of others he is a sinner, Romans 7:18-20.
 

Robert Pate

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Banned
Pate asserts that Christ did not die for his/anyone's sins, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV.....2000+ years ago, as they were all in the future, by definition, as He did not die to pay for his/anyone's sin debt, penalty, IOU, which IS INCURRED BY BREAKING GOD'S OWN EXISTING LAW, by definition, as there is no law defining the transgression/offense/sin, and resulting penalty, for which He might die, and Christ did not take his/anyone's place, in judgment, condemnation, AS HIS/OUR SUBSTITUTE, taking that judgment/condemnation/wrath, in our place, per Romans 8:3 KJV, as there is no law, to bring about judgment, condemnation, wrath. He denies that Christ died for our sins, and denies the doctrine of substitutionary atonement, asserting that God's "solution" is to destroy the law, so that there is no sin debt incurred, or judgment/condemnation possible. Thus, the LORD God could have destroyed His own law, from the third heaven, not needing to send His Christ to die. And devil child Pate cannot give us one scripture, as to how the Lord Jesus Christ's destroying of the law affects justice, as Pate perverts God's justice, as no scripture testifies to how destroying the law maintains, affirms the justice of God-he made it up. The scripture does testify as to why the Saviour need die, by blood, in our place.........propitiation, reconciliation, identification, substitution.....Justice served.


Pate rejects all of that, in his wicked perverting the gospel of Christ, as a pawn, shill of the devil, perverting the justice of God.

It is that simple.


The scriptures say that the law has been abolished, Ephesians 2:15, Colossians 2:14, 1 Timothy 1:9, Romans 7:6, plus many other scriptures.

John W cannot accept what the scriptures says because he is as spiritually dead as a rock.
 

clefty

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The Gentiles were never under "the law." You failed to address what I said about Romans 2:12 and the fact that Paul uses the "present" tense at Romans 3:18-21.

All throughout the OT it was ONE LAW for native and goyim alike...

The Sabbath commandment actually has the stranger and animals included...the only one specifically including even...the irony
 

Robert Pate

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Banned
Catch that brilliant response, by Pate?

I picked you apart, and TOL sees your auto-pilot spam, that says nothing, that you litter to everyone, that challenges your demonic assertion, spamming isolated verses, with no explanation.

You are an embarrassment to the Christian community.
 

john w

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In God's eyes the Christian is perfect and complete "In Christ" Colossians 2:10.

In his own eyes and in the eyes of others he is a sinner, Romans 7:18-20.

His demonized "logic."

Pate: Sin is the transgression of the law, but there is no law, to define sin, and thus a "sinner," you see, uh..


Yes, devil child, "In God's eyes the Christian is perfect and complete "In Christ" Colossians 2:10," but not for your satanic reason that there is no law; we are complete, in Christ, because we trusted that Christ died for our sin, sin debt, defined by an existing law, FOR BREAKING HIS EXISTING HOLY LAW, and He took our place, paid the sin debt, took our judgment/condemnation, in our place, not because there is no longer any law by which we are charged with a sin debt, by which we are judged as "guilty."

HE TOOK OUR PLACE, deceiver-justice served, for breaking his existing, not void, holy, good, spiritual law. HE DIED FOR OUR SINS, for breaking, transgressing his existing law.

You deny that, as you denigrade, treat as worthless, belittle, degrade, disparage the justice of God, and flip the bird at substitutionary atonement, propitiation, reconciliation.
 

john w

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Your problem is that you cannot discern between the physical and the spiritual, just like your brother John W.

=he spams that made up "Pate-ianity" to everyone, to craftily dismiss the definition of sin, butchering its meaning, redefining it, making the death of Christ worthless.
 

john w

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You are an embarrassment to the Christian community.

Spam, from the admitted wolf, who hates the Lord Jesus Christ, and His substitutionary atonement, despises the bible, deleting 3/4 of it, hates the idea of the law existing, which defines sin, as He wants NO PART in Christ dying for his sins, in his place, wanting instead to be shielded from justice, by flipping the bird at the LORD God, and claiming "There is no law!!!!!! No one need die for my sin debt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

=satanic
 

Robert Pate

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Banned
His demonized "logic."

Pate: Sin is the transgression of the law, but there is no law, to define sin, and thus a "sinner," you see, uh..


Yes, devil child, "In God's eyes the Christian is perfect and complete "In Christ" Colossians 2:10," but not for your satanic reason that there is no law; we are complete, in Christ, because we trusted that Christ died for our sin, sin debt, defined by an existing law, FOR BREAKING HIS EXISTING HOLY LAW, and He took our place, paid the sin debt, took our judgment/condemnation, in our place, not because there is no longer any law by which we are charged with a sin debt, by which we are judged as "guilty."

HE TOOK OUR PLACE, deceiver-justice served, for breaking us breaking his existing, not void, holy, good, spiritual law.

You deny that, as you denigrade, treat as worthless, belittle, degrade, disparage the justice of God, and flip the bird at substitutionary atonement, propitiation, reconciliation.


HOGWASH!

I do no such thing. You are full of lies and false accusations.

You can't accept the fact that the scriptures say that the law has been abolished. Ephesians 2:15, Colossians 2:14, Romans 7:6, 2 Corinthians 3:6, 2 Corinthians 3:13, Romans 10:4, Romans 4:15, 1 Timothy 1:9, plus many others.

Instead of addressing the scriptures, you attack everybody that disagrees with you.
 

Robert Pate

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Banned
Spam, from the admitted wolf, who hates the Lord Jesus Christ, and His substitutionary atonement, despises the bible, deleting 3/4 of it, hates the idea of the law existing, which defines sin, as He wants NO PART in Christ dying for his sins, in his place, wanting instead to be shielded from justice, by flipping the bird at the LORD God, and claiming "There is no law!!!!!! No one need die for my sin debt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

=satanic

You are full of lies and false accusations. Reason is that you are nothing but a religious reprobate that is controlled by Satan.
 

john w

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The scriptures say that the law has been abolished, Ephesians 2:15, Colossians 2:14, 1 Timothy 1:9, Romans 7:6, plus many other scriptures.

John W cannot accept what the scriptures says because he is as spiritually dead as a rock.

No, members of the boc reject your satanic, from the pits of hell "interpretation" of those verses, you demonic shill of the devil, spammer, troll, as I/others, have picked apart your satanic, "post verses in isolation" devil, induced wickedness.

And verse, after verse, asserts that the good, spiritual, holy law of God will last forever, and Pate, on record, asserts that Paul was a "reprobate," spiritually dead, when he said the law IS NOT VOID.


Get off this site, admitted pawn of the devil.
 

john w

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You are full of lies and false accusations. Reason is that you are nothing but a religious reprobate that is controlled by Satan.

More spam, from the admitted wolf, as I quoted you exactly, as you hate the Lord Jesus Christ, and His substitutionary atonement, despise the bible, deleting 3/4 of it, hate the idea of the law existing, which defines sin, as you want NO PART in Christ dying for your sins, in your place, wanting instead to be shielded from justice, by flipping the bird at the LORD God, and claiming "There is no law!!!!!! No one need die for my sin debt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

=satanic
 

Robert Pate

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Banned
No, members of the boc reject your satanic, from the pits of hell "interpretation" of those verses, you demonic shill of the devil, spammer, troll, as I/others, have picked apart your satanic, "post verses in isolation" devil, induced wickedness.

The scriptures don't need any interpretation. They speak for themselves. Only those that are indwelt with the Holy Spirit can understand the Bible. That leaves you out.
 
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