Papa Paul is The Best ! ! ! 1000 times the man you ever were. you are a freak - :duh:
Yet another reason people don't trust libertarians
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Papa Paul is The Best ! ! ! 1000 times the man you ever were. you are a freak - :duh:
hey, CW - did you ever google my name ?
drbrumley
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Yep, you missed it. Not where it said that baby murdering (or any other immoral behavior for that matter) is a "states rights issue". But "Each state, in ratifying the constitution, is considered to be a sovereign body independent of all others, and only to be bound by its own voluntary act. In this relation, then, the new constitution will be a federal and not a national constitution"
James Madison
That was the way it was written Hamilton. Everyone understands it Hamilton, except you it seems....
You're confused on yet another issue Patrick:
By saying that abortion is a "states rights issue" would mean that each respective state has some kind of "constitutional right" to decide if murder is legal or not.
Now show us anywhere in the founding documents or the writings of the Founding Fathers where they say that immoral behavior should be left up to the respective states.
Let me help:
TO THE OFFICERS OF THE FIRST BRIGADE OF THE THIRD
DIVISION OF THE MILITIA OF MASSACHUSETTS
11 October, 1798
GENTLEMEN
I have received from Major-General Hull and Brigadier-General Walker your unanimous address from Lexington, animated with a martial spirit, and expressed with a military dignity becoming your character and the memorable plains on which it was adopted.
While our country remains untainted with the principles and manners which are now producing desolation in so many parts of the world; while she continues sincere, and incapable of insidious and impious policy, we shall have the strongest reason to rejoice in the local destination assigned us by Providence. But should the people of America once become capable of that deep simulation towards one another, and towards foreign nations, which assumes the language of justice and moderation while it is practising iniquity and extravagance, and displays in the most captivating manner the charming pictures of candor, frankness, and sincerity, while it is rioting in rapine and insolence, this country will be the most miserable habitation in the world; because we have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made ONLY for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other....
JOHN ADAMS
Our country wasn't made for lunatics like Ron Paul.
Nor do I yours. I've never heard the term left or right Libertarian, I alway figured they were all a bunch of nutcases in the same loony bin with a few minor differences between them (i.e. one likes to roll his dope in the form of a cigarette, the other likes to smoke it out of a bong).
smoke up Johnny ! ! dat's what it is . . . Da chicks can't hold da smoke ! google my name CW. stop running. "You Can't Handle The Truth" ! are you Christian ? you sound Extremist Muslim -
smoke up Johnny ! ! dat's what it is . . . Da chicks can't hold da smoke ! google my name CW. stop running. "You Can't Handle The Truth" ! are you Christian ? you sound Extremist Muslim -
(Dopers, yet another reason Libertarianism is for losers).
Daniel1611
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The Constitution does not declare murder to be a federal crime, therefore states handle murder as a state issue. Some states have capital punishment and some don't, etc. I suppose you could argue that murder is constitutionally forbidden because it would infringe on the victims rights. However, murder itself IS a state issue as it stands. If you were to murder someone, your state would prosecute you, not the feds, unless you killed a government official or something like that.
drbrumley
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Hey Hamilton, this didn't address (even remotely) my post of Madison words. In fact I agree with this quote here, as I am sure Ron Paul is as well. So your gonna have to try again.
What is there to discuss? Our Founding Fathers didn't envision in their wildest dreams a country that would even remotely resemble the baby murderers, homosexuals, pornographers (kiddy porn included) and drug pushers that Daddy Paul and his band of Libertarian nutcases have turn it into.
Show me anywhere in our country's founding documents or Holy Scirpture (which our founding documents were based on), where it is said that people have some kind of "right" to sin.
it's not a right. it's inevitable. except you. you never sin, you have NO right ! ! your idiocracy knows no bounds. very entertaining. the fringe. lunatic - :vomit:
what did they envision, CW ? YOU sitting at the computer telling everyone HOW to be an "American" ? please - :help:
I would take longer for me to talk about that than the joint you're currently smoking will last, so I'll make it short:
God played a major role in the founding of our once great Christian nation.
musterion
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True, but because they had some degree of humanist leanings, they figured (or at least hoped) that America could beat the odds and prevail over the fallen human nature of its own people. They were wrong. Israel never did; no chance we were going to either.