Woman murdered by ex while waiting for gun permit

[Angel4Truth]

You could not be more wrong.

Im wrong about the purpose (what i wished to discuss) of a thread that *I* created? Hows that?

 

[Angel4Truth]

How about some good news for a change?

(I apologize that it's Hannity, but yay for Ms. Dee)

:thumb:

 

[Nazaroo]

Except she bought a security system, filed police reports on his vandalism and harrassment and stalking and got a restraining order before applying for the gun permit...

Yes that is rather elaborate just to get a handgun.

But see my reply to Tomo below...

Hmmm....I would think that if one were going to break the law to get a handgun it would be advise-able to not wave a flag in front of the local police.
Trust me...illegal guns are not hard to find in N.J.

A plan doesn't have to be efficient, intelligent,
or even fully coherent, for a felon to use it.

Criminals prove this on a daily basis.

I'm not saying this is the case here.

Just talking about future crimes.

As guns get harder to get, and I'm sure they will,
as we evolve toward a police state,
people will come up with more creative ways to get them.

 

[TomO]

But see my reply to Tomo below...



A plan doesn't have to be efficient, intelligent,
or even fully coherent, for a felon to use it.

Criminals prove this on a daily basis.

I'm not saying this is the case here.

Just talking about future crimes.

As guns get harder to get, and I'm sure they will,
as we evolve toward a police state,
people will come up with more creative ways to get them.

lain: Whatever you say...

 

[Tambora]

Buy a crossbow.
They come in handheld sizes too.
Pick one.
https://www.google.com/search?q=han...5SBVfrGAsbtsAW6g4KoAw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAg&dpr=0.9

 

[Sherman]

Please do not derail this thread into a big anti-law enforcement discussion. The derail has been taken to the spammers wasteland.

 

[rexlunae]

It's possible. Or it might have made no difference at all. On the other hand, he might have acquired a gun under a more permissive system, which would have made it easier for him to kill her.

Bump.

And an additional thought, how does this figure into your calculus of the risks and benefits of gun safety regulations?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/19/us/charleston-church-shooting.html?_r=0

 

[THall]

We must be inside the 18 month window
for a Presidential election/inauguration, the mass
killings and cries for gun control
have now begun......

Yet blacks only make up 13 percent of
the American population, and commit
more than 50 percent of the murders
here in the U.S. Aren't the crackers
entitled to a couple of crazies every four
years?

 

[THall]

Please do not derail this thread into a big anti-law enforcement discussion.

No one I know is anti Law Enforcement,
just anti criminals with badges never being
held accountable for their criminal behavior.

Of course, you would actually have to be
paying attention and have an ounce of
discernment to know the difference.

 

[Daniel1611]

I'm glad PA has good gun laws. I bought my first gun and got my concealed carry permit in the same day.

 

[aikido7]

That husband has a duty to be armed, according to the NRA and its supporters.

And he has a duty to protect himself if he feels the need.

 

[bybee]

No one I know is anti Law Enforcement,
just anti criminals with badges never being
held accountable for their criminal behavior.

Of course, you would actually have to be
paying attention and have an ounce of
discernment to know the difference.

You have the obligation to also be discerning. Words like "never" are generally suspect.