ECT Why was the "friend" not wearing his wedding garment?

[themuzicman]

Matthew 22:11,12 KJV

Matthew is arranged in a manner that combines similar elements together. You'll often have a few narratives and a few teachings and a few parables together, and they are often related.

This parable is paired with the parable of the two sons (one said he would go, didn't; one said he wouldn't go, did), and the parable of the tenants, who beat the master's servants and killed his son, in order to receive the inheritance.

These are both discussions of how the Jews are reacting to Jesus. The first is the people who are fickle in their allegiance, but ultimately those who follow will be saved. The second is about how the nation of Israel treats its prophets, and how they will ultimately crucify Christ.

So, this third parable is in this same vein: how is Israel reacting to Jesus?

So, first we have those we would expect to come to Christ: The religious leaders, the most respected. But they rejected Christ. Those who did come to Christ were often the poor, the sick, the sinners and outcasts. But even among these, there will be those who reject Christ, even if they were healed or were fed, which is represented by the man without the wedding clothes.

 

[DAN P]

In otherwords, you don't have the answers.

Hi and you did not rebut what I wrote in post #6 ??

So what does the Greek word FRIEND than mean in Matt 26:50 then mean ?

Those who will be saved ( Rom 11:26 ) are in the Wedding Ceremony as in John 3:29 !!

This Wedding has only to do with Israel !!

dan p

 

[Lazy afternoon]

Hi and you did not rebut what I wrote in post #6 ??

So what does the Greek word FRIEND than mean in Matt 26:50 then mean ?

Those who will be saved ( Rom 11:26 ) are in the Wedding Ceremony as in John 3:29 !!

This Wedding has only to do with Israel !!

dan p

2Co 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
2Co 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
2Co 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
2Co 11:5 For I suppose I was not a whit behind the very chiefest apostles.

Eph 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
Eph 5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Eph 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
Eph 5:27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
Eph 5:28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
Eph 5:29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
Eph 5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
Eph 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
Eph 5:32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

1Co 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
1Co 11:2 Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.
1Co 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

 

[DAN P]

2Co 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
2Co 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
2Co 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
2Co 11:5 For I suppose I was not a whit behind the very chiefest apostles.

Eph 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
Eph 5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Eph 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
Eph 5:27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
Eph 5:28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
Eph 5:29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
Eph 5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
Eph 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
Eph 5:32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

1Co 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
1Co 11:2 Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.
1Co 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

Hi and what is your point or do you know what you have written ??



dan p

 

[Lazy afternoon]

Ask the Lord, he may be able to teach you.

 

[DAN P]

Ask the Lord, he may be able to teach you.

Hi and you write and not know what it means ??

dan p

 

[Cross Reference]

All irrelevant since it is a an analogy of what redemption has afforded man by the grace of God.

 

[Cross Reference]

Matthew is arranged in a manner that combines similar elements together. You'll often have a few narratives and a few teachings and a few parables together, and they are often related.

This parable is paired with the parable of the two sons (one said he would go, didn't; one said he wouldn't go, did), and the parable of the tenants, who beat the master's servants and killed his son, in order to receive the inheritance.

These are both discussions of how the Jews are reacting to Jesus. The first is the people who are fickle in their allegiance, but ultimately those who follow will be saved. The second is about how the nation of Israel treats its prophets, and how they will ultimately crucify Christ.

So, this third parable is in this same vein: how is Israel reacting to Jesus?

So, first we have those we would expect to come to Christ: The religious leaders, the most respected. But they rejected Christ. Those who did come to Christ were often the poor, the sick, the sinners and outcasts. But even among these, there will be those who reject Christ, even if they were healed or were fed, which is represented by the man without the wedding clothes.

All irrelevant if you can see it is an analogy of what redemption has afforded man by the grace of God. That is why I wrote: "Think Christian".

 

[themuzicman]

All irrelevant if you can see it is an analogy of what redemption has afforded man by the grace of God. That is why I wrote: "Think Christian".

Unfortunately, you've skipped the exegetical steps of context, author and audience in your analysis. We cannot simply assume 21st century Christianity, and then begin to interpret a parable spoken in the 1st Century to Jews under the Old Covenant about the kingdom of God from their perspective.

In essence, you need to think like they did, not like you do.

 

[Cross Reference]

Unfortunately, you've skipped the exegetical steps of context, author and audience in your analysis. We cannot simply assume 21st century Christianity, and then begin to interpret a parable spoken in the 1st Century to Jews under the Old Covenant about the kingdom of God from their perspective.

In essence, you need to think like they did, not like you do.

To the Jews?? The NT writings-understanding?? I don't believe so. This is the Holy Spirit making His attempt in getting us to understand what the issues are surrounding God's Grace and HOW it is violated. Again, think Christian. Think, Redemption and new birth [evidence].

 

[serpentdove]

[Why was the friend not wearing his wedding garment? Matthew 22:11,12 KJV]

He was unprepared.

And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment [Matt. 22:11].

"What is that wedding garment? The King’s invitation is for everyone, but there is a danger of coming without meeting the demands of the King. That wedding garment is the righteousness of Christ which is absolutely essential for salvation, and it is supplied to all who believe. The apostle Paul speaks of this imputed righteousness: “But now the righteousness of God without the law [that is, apart from the law] is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of [from] God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all [it comes down upon all] them that believe: for there is no difference” (Rom. 3:21–22). All have to have a wedding garment."

And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless [Matt. 22:12].

"Notice that he was speechless! I hear some folk say that they don’t need to receive Christ, that they will take their chances before God, that they intend to argue their case. Well, our Lord said that this fellow without the wedding garment was speechless." McGee, J. V. (1991). Thru the Bible commentary: The Gospels (Matthew 14-28) (electronic ed., Vol. 35, p. 106). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

"22:11 a wedding garment. All without exception were invited to the banquet, so this man is not to be viewed as a common party-crasher. In fact, all the guests were rounded up hastily from “the highways” and therefore none could be expected to come with proper attire. That means the wedding garments were supplied by the king himself. So this man’s lack of a proper garment indicates he had purposely rejected the king’s own gracious provision. His affront to the king was actually a greater insult than those who refused to come at all, because he committed his impertinence in the very presence of the king. The imagery seems to represent those who identify with the kingdom externally, profess to be Christians, belong to the church in a visible sense—yet spurn the garment of righteousness Christ offers (cf. Is. 61:10) by seeking to establish a righteousness of their own (cf. Rom. 10:3; Phil. 3:8, 9). Ashamed to admit their own spiritual poverty (see note on 5:3), they refuse the better garment the King graciously offers—and thus they are guilty of a horrible sin against His goodness.

22:12 And he was speechless. I.e., he had no excuse." MacArthur, J., Jr. (Ed.). (1997). The MacArthur Study Bible (electronic ed., p. 1434). Nashville, TN: Word Pub.

As a reminder Cross Reference is number 7 on Satan, Inc. (TOL Heretics list) in the Misc. category. :burnlib:

 

[serpentdove]

...t was he who did not overcome the world who was not wearing the wedding garment:

"For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?" (1 Jn.5:4-5).​

Right, we overcomers. :jump: We have overcome: the world (John 16:33), the flesh (2 Pet. 2:19, 20) and the devil (1 John 2:13, 14).

 

[Cross Reference]

Right, we overcomers. :jump: We have overcome: the world (John 16:33), the flesh (2 Pet. 2:19, 20) and the devil (1 John 2:13, 14).

That is merely saying you can't be tempted.

 

[themuzicman]

To the Jews?? The NT writings-understanding?? I don't believe so. This is the Holy Spirit making His attempt in getting us to understand what the issues are surrounding God's Grace and HOW it is violated. Again, think Christian. Think, Redemption and new birth [evidence].

Read the text. Matthew tells us who Jesus is speaking to:

Matt 21:32 For John came to you in the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes believed him. And even when you saw it, you did not afterward change your minds and believe him.

Matt 22:15 Then the Pharisees went and plotted how to entangle him in his words.

These are those to whom Jesus is speaking to and about. He isn't speaking to or about you.

 

[Cross Reference]

Read the text. Matthew tells us who Jesus is speaking to:

Matt 21:32 For John came to you in the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes believed him. And even when you saw it, you did not afterward change your minds and believe him.

Matt 22:15 Then the Pharisees went and plotted how to entangle him in his words.

These are those to whom Jesus is speaking to and about. He isn't speaking to or about you.

Indeed, Matthew does tells us. . . and for our edification is he doing so.

Who is Jesus speking to here: "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." John 17:3 (KJV)

 

[serpentdove]

[As a reminder Cross Reference is number 7 on Satan, Inc. (TOL Heretics list) in the Misc. category :burnlib:, Believers have overcome: the world (John 16:33), the flesh (2 Pet. 2:19, 20) and the devil (1 John 2:13, 14).] That is merely saying you can't be tempted.

Where did you get that idea? :dizzy: 1 Co 10:12

 

[themuzicman]

Indeed, Matthew does tells us. . . and for our edification is he doing so.

Not exactly. Certainly we can draw truth from what he says based upon who he is speaking to, but you cannot say that you are part of the parable itself.

Who is Jesus speking to here: "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." John 17:3 (KJV)

And Jesus is speaking of the 11 at this point.

 

[Cross Reference]

Not exactly. Certainly we can draw truth from what he says based upon who he is speaking to, but you cannot say that you are part of the parable itself.



And Jesus is speaking of the 11 at this point.

Does it read like they know all there is to know about Jesus? Read Matthew 24 keeping this in mind. Who is Jesus cautioning?

 

[themuzicman]

Does it read like they know all there is to know about Jesus? Read Matthew 24 keeping this in mind. Who is Jesus cautioning?

Not sure how this is relevant. Jesus revealed himself to them in the way He chose to so do, as a prophet to them, speaking in parables so they would remain blinded to him. That's one thing that makes some of the parables a bit difficult to interpret: They weren't intended to bring anyone into the light.

So, no, they didn't understand who he was. But Jesus' purpose wasn't to reveal that to them.

 

[Cross Reference]

Not sure how this is relevant. Jesus revealed himself to them in the way He chose to so do, as a prophet to them, speaking in parables so they would remain blinded to him. That's one thing that makes some of the parables a bit difficult to interpret: They weren't intended to bring anyone into the light.

So, no, they didn't understand who he was. But Jesus' purpose wasn't to reveal that to them.

They weren't spoken of as His Disciples fro nothing. In this, sufficient time has past for them to understand who He was.

Matthew24; John 17:3 are not parables.
Little of what HE ever spoke was parable when discussing with His own.