Why Hasn't Christ Come?

[Letsargue]

What you are really saying is you have no scripture, and one should believe what you say rather than what the word of God says.

Is that it?

AAAAHHHHHH, COME OOONNNN!!!!!!

NO ONE Can use the "Word of God" against such ABSOLUTE Words for "HIS" Head!!!!!!!!! - He's Right to Himself, and The Word of God // Christ is the FOOL, AND, If YOU go by the TRUTH // Christ!!!!!

(( Watch Your N-E-W-S ))!!!!!!!!

PAUL, DAVID -- 022016

 

[steko]

In that case, Jesus will never return because we can't accept Jesus as the Messiah because the Messiah cannot be an individual. If you read prophet Habakkuk 3:13, "The Lord goes forth to save His People; to save His Anointed One. " That's what the Messiah is, the Anointed One of the Lord aka Israel within the collective concept of the People. Besides, the individual is born, lives his span of life and dies. Are we to expect a new Messiah in every generation! Obviously not. The Messiah is not supposed to die but to remain as a People before the Lord forever. (Jer. 31:35-37)

Well....it will take a lot of 'pressure/thilipsis/tribulation' for the remnant to come around to th' plain truth of it, but....... the remnant will come forth and be preserved, finally. May you be so blessed, son of Jacob! Am Yisrael Chai!

I see nowhere in Scripture where corporate Israel is called Messiah.
The Kings of Israel were individual Messiahs and likewise, David's prophesied ultimate Son will be/is called Messiah. Even the gentile King Cyrus was called Messiah. He was an individual, too.

Hab 3:13 Thou wentest forth for the salvation of thy people, even for salvation with thine anointed; thou woundedst the head out of the house of the wicked, by discovering the foundation unto the neck. Selah.

Hab 3:13 Thou wentest forth for the salvation of thy people, to save thine anointed[christ]: thou shalt bring death on the heads of transgressors; thou has brought bands upon their neck. Pause.-LXX

Habakkuk's prayer recalls GOD's glorious deliverance of Israel from Egypt, the people from which the Judaic, Davidic, Messiah would eventually come. Without GOD's continual preservation of Jacob, the individual Messiah would never come to be manifest in the earth and never sit on His glorious throne, the throne of His father David.

 

[KingdomRose]

The brand of Gospel Jesus wanted preached must first be preached to all the world before He returns (Matt 24:14). But why hasn't He come? Is it because the brand of gospel most Christian preachers preach is not the brand of gospel He wanted preached?

Exactly. He said "the good news of the Kingdom must be preached to all the nations" first. (Matt.24:14) No religion has done this until the late 1800's and up to now.

(1) The Kingdom has been misrepresented by religions, telling people that it's "in their hearts"! That's a lie, and the Bible clearly shows that it is a real government. (Isaiah 9: 6,7; Daniel 2: 44)

(2) Jesus indicated that the truth would be basically squelched until "the last days." His parable at Matt. 13: 24-30 and 37-43 shows that to be the case. Notice that the true Christians and the false would "grow together until the harvest" (which is "the conclusion of the system of things"). THEN, in these last days, the false Christians would be exposed, and the true Christians would be evident. Since 1879 the Kingdom truth has been preached all over the world, and has reached every country and island.

We are in the "last days" now. All we're waiting for is for the nations to declare "Peace and Security" (I Thessalonians 5:3) and the destruction, by the governments, of Religion. (Revelation 17:16; 18:21)

Jehovah has a specific time to send Jesus back here to destroy all the corruption on this planet. It's getting very near.


www.jw.org

 

[KingdomRose]

No! Jesus had told his disciples that they would still be alive when he returned, but they would not know the day or the hour.

We know, because it is history to us. It happened in 70 AD, the day the temple was destroyed, just as he told the disciples it would be.

That's right, Jesus disciples would be alive---not the ones alive in his day, but us today who are alive. And true, we do not know the day or hour. We stopped trying to figure it out.

He is coming any time now. The preaching work has been accomplished throughout the world. Every country and island has been witnessed to. The government of God is SOON to be established.

Look up information on "the huge image of Daniel chapter 2," and you will see strong evidence of where we are in the scheme of things. You can see this image on the regular internet or on www.jw.org .

 

[KingdomRose]

Fullness of the gentiles has not come in. If it had, blindness in part would be lifted from Israel.

It has. Do you recall that the Apostles Paul and Peter proclaimed that, since the physical nation of Israel had rejected Jesus, the Christian congregation was now God's chosen people? So it would be SPIRITUAL Israel that is currently relevant to God and Jesus.

"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's descendants, heir according to promise." (Galatians 3:28,29, NASB)

"You are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God's own possession, so that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness in His marvelous light; for you once were not a people, but now you are the people of God." (I Peter 2:9,10, NASB)

Peter was writing to Gentiles who had accepted Christ, and Paul to the church of Galatia. Clearly whoever accepted Christ was part of the "people for God's possession" no matter what nationality they were.

So, with that in mind, we can reason that the spiritual Jews of today have indeed had blindness lifted. Especially since 1914, when "the times of the Gentiles" were fulfilled.

 

[steko]

Exactly. He said "the good news of the Kingdom must be preached to all the nations" first. (Matt.24:14) No religion has done this until the late 1800's and up to now.

The gospel of the kingdom was not preached in the 1800's, nor is it now.

(1) The Kingdom has been misrepresented by religions, telling people that it's "in their hearts"! That's a lie, and the Bible clearly shows that it is a real government. (Isaiah 9: 6,7; Daniel 2: 44)

That part, you got right.

(2) Jesus indicated that the truth would be basically squelched until "the last days." His parable at Matt. 13: 24-30 and 37-43 shows that to be the case. Notice that the true Christians and the false would "grow together until the harvest" (which is "the conclusion of the system of things"). THEN, in these last days, the false Christians would be exposed, and the true Christians would be evident. Since 1879 the Kingdom truth has been preached all over the world, and has reached every country and island.

The gospel of the kingdom is not being preached and has absolutely nothing to do with 1879.

We are in the "last days" now. All we're waiting for is for the nations to declare "Peace and Security" (I Thessalonians 5:3) and the destruction, by the governments, of Religion. (Revelation 17:16; 18:21)

1Thess 5 has to do with 'the times and seasons' for Israel.

Jehovah has a specific time to send Jesus back here to destroy all the corruption on this planet. It's getting very near

This is true.

www.jw.org

This is not true.

 

[steko]

It has. Do you recall that the Apostles Paul and Peter proclaimed that, since the physical nation of Israel had rejected Jesus, the Christian congregation was now God's chosen people? So it would be SPIRITUAL Israel that is currently relevant to God and Jesus.

"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's descendants, heir according to promise." (Galatians 3:28,29, NASB)

"You are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God's own possession, so that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness in His marvelous light; for you once were not a people, but now you are the people of God." (I Peter 2:9,10, NASB)

Peter was writing to Gentiles who had accepted Christ, and Paul to the church of Galatia. Clearly whoever accepted Christ was part of the "people for God's possession" no matter what nationality they were.

So, with that in mind, we can reason that the spiritual Jews of today have indeed had blindness lifted. Especially since 1914, when "the times of the Gentiles" were fulfilled.

1914 has nothing to do with Bible prophecy.

 

[alwight]

So, with that in mind, we can reason that the spiritual Jews of today have indeed had blindness lifted. Especially since 1914, when "the times of the Gentiles" were fulfilled.

Other people can reason that JWs have simply revised their dogma each time their prophecies have failed. Charles Taze Russell (JW leader b 1852 d 1916) died disillusioned "reasoning" that WWI was the start of Armageddon.

 

[JJ50]

I think people will still be expecting the arrival of Jesus thousands of years from now if religion is still practised! I think he stayed dead!