The point was, the moneychangers were using unjust balances not rendering equal payment, AND they made HaShem's house a house of thieves in the process. Yeshua was simply demonstrating God's outrage at the very idea and insult of it.
Why did the Jews Kill Jesus?
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The point was, the moneychangers were using unjust balances not rendering equal payment, AND they made HaShem's house a house of thieves in the process. Yeshua was simply demonstrating God's outrage at the very idea and insult of it.
That's where your wrong. The Son is alive, and you would know that if you would ask HaShem to reveal the truth of it and HIM, to you. Then no one could tell you any differently, because a man with a theory is no match for a man with an experience.
Ben Masada
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Why Didn't God create Jesus?
Why Didn't God create Jesus?
That's absolute verbal juggling of nonsense.
Why Didn't God create Jesus?
That's absolute verbal juggling of nonsense.
Ben Masada
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Why did the Jews Kill Jesus?
I would confirm your post with Mat. 5:11. When Jesus was delivering his Sermon of the Mount to a crowd of Jews, he blessed them with the following words: "Blessed are you when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you FALSELY for my sake." Falsely, said Jesus, and that's what I am trying to remind the posters in this forum.
I would confirm your post with Mat. 5:11. When Jesus was delivering his Sermon of the Mount to a crowd of Jews, he blessed them with the following words: "Blessed are you when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you FALSELY for my sake." Falsely, said Jesus, and that's what I am trying to remind the posters in this forum.
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1) No, he did not. He prayed three times in the Gethsemane asking not to walk the Via Dolorosa. At the end he said, "Let thy will be done; not mine." What was his will? Obviously not to walk to the cross which means there was no willingness to die for no one.
2) No, he did not. By the time of Jesus, the prophetic system in Israel had been removed from Judaism. (Dan. 9:24)
3) Please, show me the quote for that text.
4) Please, document your assertion with the proper evidence.
Ben Masada
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No, it was the Romans at the stupidity of Jesus' own disciples. The Pharisees tried to prevent that tragedy but Jesus seemed to be enjoying the parade and had to pay too hard for that mistake. (Luke 19:37-40)
Ben Masada
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Why did the Jews Kill Jesus?
Can you quote an evidence that the reason for that havoc at the Temple was unjust balances and not rendering equal payments?
Can you quote an evidence that the reason for that havoc at the Temple was unjust balances and not rendering equal payments?
Ben Masada
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Why did the Jews Kill Jesus?
Prove it! If you are a man with experience; show me the evidence that Jesus is alive. You are living in a paradoxical world. You comply that Jesus was a Jew and insist that he returned from the grave. Read Isa. 26:14; II Sam. 12:23 and Job 10:21) According to the Faith of Jesus which was Judaism, once dead, no one will ever return.
Prove it! If you are a man with experience; show me the evidence that Jesus is alive. You are living in a paradoxical world. You comply that Jesus was a Jew and insist that he returned from the grave. Read Isa. 26:14; II Sam. 12:23 and Job 10:21) According to the Faith of Jesus which was Judaism, once dead, no one will ever return.
Ben Masada
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Why did the Jews Kill Jesus?
Jesus never said that. That's from the Hellenist who wrote that gospel and attributed it to Matthew for apostolic credibility. Matthew never wrote that gospel. (Mat 9:9)
Jesus never said that. That's from the Hellenist who wrote that gospel and attributed it to Matthew for apostolic credibility. Matthew never wrote that gospel. (Mat 9:9)
God's Truth
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You say that because your only defense is to say the written Word of God is corrupt.
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Mark 12:1 And he began to speak unto them by parables. A certain man planted a vineyard, and set an hedge about it, and digged a place for the winefat, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country.
Mark 12:2 And at the season he sent to the husbandmen a servant, that he might receive from the husbandmen of the fruit of the vineyard.
Mark 12:3 And they caught him, and beat him, and sent him away empty.
Mark 12:4 And again he sent unto them another servant; and at him they cast stones, and wounded him in the head, and sent him away shamefully handled.
Mark 12:5 And again he sent another; and him they killed, and many others; beating some, and killing some.
Mark 12:6 Having yet therefore one son, his wellbeloved, he sent him also last unto them, saying, They will reverence my son.
Mark 12:7 But those husbandmen said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and the inheritance shall be ours.
Mark 12:8 And they took him, and killed him, and cast him out of the vineyard.
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Acts 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:
Acts 2:23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:
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Acts 3:12 And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel, why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk?
Acts 3:13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.
Acts 3:14 But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you;
Acts 3:15 And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.
Jamie Gigliotti
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I forgot you don't believe in the super natural, or spiritual world... Yet you say God is a Spirit. Logically impossible.
Jamie Gigliotti
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And yet Saul summoned Samuel after his death through a medium. Surely the Spirit lives on.
Ben Masada
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Why did the Jews Kill Jesus?
And you are jealous that the written Word of God was given to the Jews only and to no other people on earth. (Psa. 147:19,20)
And you are jealous that the written Word of God was given to the Jews only and to no other people on earth. (Psa. 147:19,20)
God's Truth
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The written Word of God is given to everyone.
turbosixx
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I'm curious what you make of these verses?
Rom. 5:6 For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. 7 For one will hardly die for a righteous man; though perhaps for the good man someone would dare even to die. 8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.......19 For as through the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the One the many will be made righteous.
Acts 28:23 When they had set a day for Paul, they came to him at his lodging in large numbers; and he was explaining to them by solemnly testifying about the kingdom of God and trying to persuade them concerning Jesus, from both the Law of Moses and from the Prophets, from morning until evening.
Ben Masada
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Why did the Jews Kill Jesus?
HaShem is a Spirit and so said Jesus in John 4:24. The super natural or spiritual world is when Israel, the People become a Kingdom of Priests and a Holy Nation. (Exod. 19:6)
HaShem is a Spirit and so said Jesus in John 4:24. The super natural or spiritual world is when Israel, the People become a Kingdom of Priests and a Holy Nation. (Exod. 19:6)
Yeshua was not killed!
He was put to a penal death!
The Jews had no authority to put anyone to death which was why Pilot ordered the execution of the Messiah, it was a Roman hand that nailed Messiah to the tree, Yeshua was executed by the Romans not the Jews. Officially Yeshua was seen as a rival threat to the Roman Empire and was executed by the Romans.
He was put to a penal death!
The Jews had no authority to put anyone to death which was why Pilot ordered the execution of the Messiah, it was a Roman hand that nailed Messiah to the tree, Yeshua was executed by the Romans not the Jews. Officially Yeshua was seen as a rival threat to the Roman Empire and was executed by the Romans.