Who Justifieth the Ungodly

beloved57

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The free gift of Justification !

Rom 5:16

16 [FONT=&quot]And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.

The free gift here isnt a offering of Justification, no more than condemnation was an offering. The free gift here is unto Justification, not only from the sin of adam, but all subsequent sins, actual sins of the elect of God. This free gift of justification isnt for all men without exception since many are under condemnation and wrath for their sins.[/FONT]
 

Nanja

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The free gift of Justification !

Rom 5:16

16 [FONT="]And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.

The free gift here isnt a offering of Justification, no more than condemnation was an offering. The free gift here is unto Justification, not only from the sin of adam, but all subsequent sins, actual sins of the elect of God. This free gift of justification isnt for all men without exception since many are under condemnation and wrath for their sins.[/FONT]


Amen, this free gift of Justification was not an offering for any to accept or reject; but was imputed to all God's Elect from Everlasting in their Surety Christ Jesus Heb. 7:22; Heb. 13:20 and their sins imputed to Him Ps. 32:1-2.

So their being Created in their natural federal head Adam in time, were never under any condemnation for sins, because they were Justified / made Righteous in Christ their Spiritual Head Who laid upon Himself all their sins Is. 53:6.

Rom. 5:19
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.


But the non-elect which were not created in Adam in the beginning, but in their father the devil Mat. 13:38b, shall remain under the Wrath of God for their sins Rev. 21:8.
 

beloved57

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God Justifies the ungodly !

Rom 4:5

5 [FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]But to him that worketh not, but believeth on [/FONT]him that justifieth the ungodly[FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif], his faith is counted for righteousness.[/FONT]

[FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Now even though these are justified while being in a state of ungodliness, thats not why they are Justified, they are justified because they before Gods law and justice are accounted righteous, on the sole basis of the satisfaction Christ provided for them by His Blood shed.[/FONT]
 

beloved57

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[FONT=&quot] "but believeth on [/FONT]him that justifieth the ungodly[FONT=&quot], "

This truth carnal reason cant comprehend and wont accept, which is the elect here are being justified before God even while being in a ungodly state or as unbelievers at enmity with God. See they wouldnt be ungodly if they were believers already. Note further that the object of their Faith is He that Justifies the ungodly.
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Nanja

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[FONT="][COLOR=#000000] "[B]but believeth on [/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][B][U]him that justifieth the ungodly[/U][/B][COLOR=#333333][FONT="], "

This truth carnal reason cant comprehend and wont accept, which is the elect here are being justified before God even while being in a ungodly state or as unbelievers at enmity with God. See they wouldnt be ungodly if they were believers already. Note further that the object of their Faith is He that Justifies the ungodly.
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Amen to #504 and #505 !


All God's elect in Christ Eph. 1:4, even while being His enemies and unbelievers, were declared Justified, reconciled to God based solely on the Blood / Death of Christ on their behalf. Their own faith / believing in time is given them as a fruit of New Birth, and bears evidence of them being Justified by the Blood of Christ; He who is the object of their Faith that Justifies the ungodly.

Rom. 5:8-10

8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.


Therefore, the Elect being Justified / reconciled to God, is based solely on Christ's Blood Work on their behalf, not any act of faith or action on their part.
 

beloved57

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Amen to #504 and #505 !


All God's elect in Christ Eph. 1:4, even while being His enemies and unbelievers, were declared Justified, reconciled to God based solely on the Blood / Death of Christ on their behalf. Their own faith / believing in time is given them as a fruit of New Birth, and bears evidence of them being Justified by the Blood of Christ; He who is the object of their Faith that Justifies the ungodly.

Rom. 5:8-10

8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.


Therefore, the Elect being Justified / reconciled to God, is based solely on Christ's Blood Work on their behalf, not any act of faith or action on their part.
Exactly and Amen Sister

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beloved57

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I believe scripture teaches us that the elect of God were justified before God before faith because of the surety-ship doings and righteousness of Jesus Christ their Head, and if this be true, it would be also true that they were justified before God before they actually had a physical being, even before the world began because of His surety-ship engagement to come into the world and die for the elect.
 

beloved57

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So if God Justifies the ungodly, He justifies unbelievers !

"but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, "

This truth carnal reason cant comprehend and wont accept, which is the elect here are being justified before God even while being in a ungodly state or as unbelievers at enmity with God. See they wouldnt be ungodly if they were believers already. Note further that the object of their Faith is He that Justifies the ungodly.
 

Nanja

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I believe scripture teaches us that the elect of God were justified before God before faith because of the surety-ship doings and righteousness of Jesus Christ their Head, and if this be true, it would be also true that they were justified before God before they actually had a physical being, even before the world began because of His surety-ship engagement to come into the world and die for the elect.


Totally agree Brother ! All the elect of God are blessed to have legal forgiveness of sins even before the world began, based on the Everlasting Covenant of Grace, whereby Christ was established as Covenant Head and Surety Heb. 7:22 of them all, His Sheep Heb. 13:20. Their sins were imputed to Him, and their Surety's Righteousness was imputed to them Is. 53:6. And that was before they sinned in their Federal Head Adam. So legally God could never charge them with sin because those Christ the Lamb was slain for Rev. 13:8 stand Justified; not guilty based solely upon their Surety's Blood Work on their behalf Rom. 5:9-10.

I believe that's what our Brother David declared by Inspiration of the Holy Spirit here:

Ps. 32:1-2

1 Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.

2 Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.
 

beloved57

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Exactly ! Being Justified by Christ's Blood Rom. 5:9-10, means that the elect were put into a right relationship with God while being His enemies / unbelievers.

Mans religion cant believe that Sister ! However thats the True Grace of God !
 

beloved57

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He also Justifies them as unbelievers by His death, when He bare their iniquities Isa 53:11

11 [FONT=&quot]He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

By this bearing their [/FONT]
iniquities He Justified them ! Folks though false teachers will deny it and corrupt the truth of it, Christ by dying for the sins of them He died for, The Sheep, that fact alone justified them. Because when He died for them, satisfied the justice and law of God for them, by bearing the punishment due to their sins,

So God for Christ sake doeth acquit them ! Also the word for justify in Isa 53:11
tsadaq means to cleanse ! As in Dan 8:14 !
 

Nanja

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He also Justifies them as unbelievers by His death, when He bare their iniquities Isa 53:11

11 [FONT="]He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

By this bearing their [/FONT]
iniquities He Justified them ! Folks though false teachers will deny it and corrupt the truth of it, Christ by dying for the sins of them He died for, The Sheep, that fact alone justified them. Because when He died for them, satisfied the justice and law of God for them, by bearing the punishment due to their sins,

So God for Christ sake doeth acquit them ! Also the word for justify in Isa 53:11
tsadaq means to cleanse ! As in Dan 8:14 !


Absolutely ! It's Christ's Death alone that Justifies / Cleanses The Many Is. 53:11 He died for.

Yet false teachers deny the Saving Efficacy of Christ's Death alone to Justify before God all for whom He died, by introducing some work performance required by man, i.e. exercising one's own faith or believing, acceptance of Christ, being baptized, etc. in addition to the Obedience of Christ Rom. 5:19 for all He makes Righteous, denying the Justification by Christ's Blood alone Rom. 5:9.
 

beloved57

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Absolutely ! It's Christ's Death alone that Justifies / Cleanses The Many Is. 53:11 He died for.

Yet false teachers deny the Saving Efficacy of Christ's Death alone to Justify before God all for whom He died, by introducing some work performance required by man, i.e. exercising one's own faith or believing, acceptance of Christ, being baptized, etc. in addition to the Obedience of Christ Rom. 5:19 for all He makes Righteous, denying the Justification by Christ's Blood alone Rom. 5:9.

Amen !
 

beloved57

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Justified solely by Christs obedience !

Though the religions of men dont believe or understand this blessed truth, its nonetheless true, that al the sinners Christ represented in His obedience while upon this earth , it justified them or makes them righteous. Lets look at a scripture to that effect Rom 5:19

For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

The word righteous here also means just or justified. The individual sinners obedience has nothing to do with this Justification, because if it did that would contradict and over throw the blessed truth of this verse.
 

beloved57

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Also those sinners Christ died for, the same are or have been Justified by His Resurrection from the dead, Rom 4:25

25 [FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Who was delivered for our offences, and[/FONT] was raised again for our justification.

[FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]In other words, Christ being raised from the dead is an attestation that the sinners for whom offences He was delivered up for, they have been cleared, justified of them.

Thats also why Paul wrote to fellow believers in Corinth that if Christ hasn't been risen from the dead their faith is vain, and they are yet still in their sins, so conversely , since He was raised, they are clear and free of their sins, which truth is revealed to God given Faith. 1 Cor 15:17

[/FONT]17 [FONT=&quot]And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.

There's no such thing as a sinner Christ died for and raised again for, not being Justified ! For that would invalidated the [/FONT]
attestation of Christs resurrection from the dead !
 

Nanja

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Also those sinners Christ died for, the same are or have been Justified by His Resurrection from the dead, Rom 4:25

25 [FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Who was delivered for our offences, and[/FONT] was raised again for our justification.

[FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]In other words, Christ being raised from the dead is an attestation that the sinners for whom offences He was delivered up for, they have been cleared, justified of them.

Thats also why Paul wrote to fellow believers in Corinth that if Christ hasn't been risen from the dead their faith is vain, and they are yet still in their sins, so conversely , since He was raised, they are clear and free of their sins, which truth is revealed to God given Faith. 1 Cor 15:17

[/FONT]17 [FONT="]And[B] if Christ be not raised[/B], your faith is vain;[B] ye are yet in your sins.[/B]

There's no such thing as a sinner Christ died for and raised again for, not being Justified ! For that would invalidated the [/FONT][/COLOR]attestation of Christs resurrection from the dead ![/QUOTE]


[COLOR="#006400"]Amen to both parts !


The ungodly sinners made Righteous by Christ's Obedience unto death were Justified solely by that fact alone, and His Resurrection being an attestation, confirms that fact Rom. 4:25 to the same ones, and is revealed to them by God given Faith in New Birth Titus 1:1.

However, those in false religion can't receive this Gospel Truth 1 Cor. 2:14, and instead maintain that one must first believe, repent, or perform other works of the flesh Rom. 8:8 before they can become justified, which is a lie, and outright blasphemy against the Blood of Christ and His Obedience alone Rom. 5:19 on behalf of all God's Elect He died for.
 

beloved57

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Amen to both parts !

The ungodly sinners made Righteous by Christ's Obedience unto death were Justified solely by that fact alone, and His Resurrection being an attestation, confirms that fact Rom. 4:25 to the same ones, and is revealed to them by God given Faith in New Birth Titus 1:1.

However, those in false religion can't receive this Gospel Truth 1 Cor. 2:14, and instead maintain that one must first believe, repent, or perform other works of the flesh Rom. 8:8 before they can become justified, which is a lie, and outright blasphemy against the Blood of Christ and His Obedience alone Rom. 5:19 on behalf of all God's Elect He died for.

Praise the Lord Sister !
 
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