Who Hates Academic Freedom?

[NathanM]

Nope...its details on chapter 1

And yet.. .

So, what is a "kind"?

 

[The Barbarian]

For what must be at least the 40th time in the past two weeks, you have posted this exact thing. And it's just as useless now as it was the first time

It's from the Litany against Reason.

I must not think.
Reason is the illusion-killer
Reason is the little enlightenment that brings billions of years.
I will ignore reason.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past, I will turn back to my fairy tales.
Where reason has gone, there will be nothing. Only creationism remains.

 

[Stripe]

What is a "kind"?

All the organisms descended from a common ancestor population.

It's from the Litany against Reason.[IB]I must not think.Reason is the illusion-killerReason is the little enlightenment that brings billions of years.I will ignore reason.I will permit it to pass over me and through me.And when it has gone past, I will turn back to my fairy tales.Where reason has gone, there will be nothing. Only creationism remains.[/B][/I]

Meanwhile, you deny scripture, preferring to assert your religion of "billions of years."

 

[The Barbarian]

And Stipe chants his litany...

 

[Stripe]

And Stipe chants his litany...

Nope. Just the facts. You deny the Bible, pretending it is compatible with your religion. You've eliminated yourself from reasonable discourse.

 

[noguru]

Like the evolutionists in Alabama, you misrepresent. Read the op again. "This bill would also allow public school teachers to help students understand, analyze, critique, and review the scientific strengths and scientific weaknesses of all existing scientific theories covered in a science course."

If you were a teacher, do you see any wording in there that would force you to discuss Biblical creation? No

I do not know where you have been for the past century, but this is already done. YECism is discussed in the history part of science, precisely because it is a defunct theory in regard to science. They discuss all the previous defunct theories for biodiversity. But lobotomized religionists like yourself get really confused about reality.

 

[noguru]

For what must be at least the 40th time in the past two weeks, you have posted this exact thing. And it's just as useless now as it was the first time

:dizzy:

But it say "6 days".

:nananana:

:dizzy:

 

[NathanM]

All the organisms descended from a common ancestor population.

That does not answer the question.

What was the "kind" from which these descendants descended?

What MECHANISM allows for the diversification?

Meanwhile, you deny scripture, preferring to assert your religion of "billions of years."

Yes, I deny that for which there is ZERO evidence and ZERO corroboration*, as any intelligent, sane person should.



*I am referring specifically to the miraculous claims and hideous acts of the OT Yahweh, not the occasional historical semi-accurate claim, like the existence of Pontius Pilate.

 

[NathanM]

The No. 1 argument of the evolutionist comes to the fore again.

What people accept does not count as evidence.

Thus, all the creationists in the world is not evidence that creationism is valid.

 

[noguru]

So why are you setting yourself up as Pope, telling other Christians what to believe?

Inferiority complex.

 

[NathanM]

When the evolutionist's prime weapon fails, he always has his backup: Begging the question.

I do not believe you understand what begging the question actually means.

Relying on previously drawn conclusions is not assuming that what one wants to believe is true.

 

[NathanM]

Meanwhile, you reject the plain teaching of the Bible, preferring your "billions of years" to scripture, which says: "Six days."

A sensible and defensible position. Since the veracity of bible lore is in question, it is a bad idea to merely presuppose that it is 100% true and accurate.

It seems, Stripe, that you are among the primary employers of the begging the question fallacy on here.

 

[noguru]

Yes... He loves me. Do you have a personal relationship with Him?
"Look! I stand at the door and knock. If you hear my voice and open the door, I will come in, and we will share a meal together as friends." Rev.3:20

If He loved you he would not have made you so confused.

 

[NathanM]

Originally Posted by lucaspa View Post
Creationism is a falsified scientific theory.

:darwinsm:

Yes, that IS funny - because creationism does not come close to even BEING a 'theory'! It relies ENTIRELY on question begging and cherry picking data! bwaahahaha!

 

[noguru]

Name-calling and labeling seems immature to me. It is not only hurtful and cruel but gives little attention to other people and their sense of dignity.

I read and study the Bible. I have found two versions of the creation myth as well as two versions of the Noah stories.

In the first chapter of Genesis, humans are created after the animals are created. In the second chapter, humans were created before the other animals.

In chapter one of Genesis, man and woman were created simultaneously, while in the second chapter the text says man was created first, then the animals, then woman from Adam's rib.

Historians (which use historical methodology, not theological or apologetic claims) have found two different creation stories. One story calls God Jehovah (Yaweh) and the other story calls God Elohim. Rather than try a mental pretzel action to "force" the two accounts to agree, I take both versions seriously (because they are in the Bible!).

There are many different traditions and theologies in the Bible, and these are just two of them.

Next time, instead of name-calling just ask me directly for evidence.
I am willing to grant other posters their own philosophy/interpretation of the Bible. I guess I am just disappointed that you will not allow me the same courtesy.

It is part of their authoritarian nature. And their lack of self esteem leads them to try and undermine other people who do actually use the mental faculties that God supplied humans.

 

[Stripe]

Yes, that IS funny - because creationism does not come close to even BEING a 'theory'! It relies ENTIRELY on question begging and cherry picking data! bwaahahaha!

Nope.

Were you planning on being anything but a troll? :troll:

 

[NathanM]

Nope.

Yup.


Creationism relies on assertions, demonstrably false claims, etc.


Sensible, educated creationists understand the truth:

"Evolution is not a theory in crisis. It is not teetering on the verge of collapse. It has not failed as a scientific explanation. There is evidence for evolution, gobs and gobs of it. It is not just speculation or a faith choice or an assumption or a religion. It is a productive framework for lots of biological research, and it has amazing explanatory power. There is no conspiracy to hide the truth about the failure of evolution. There has really been no failure of evolution as a scientific theory. It works, and it works well.

I say these things not because I'm crazy or because I've "converted" to evolution. I say these things because they are true. I'm motivated this morning by reading yet another clueless, well-meaning person pompously declaring that evolution is a failure. People who say that are either unacquainted with the inner workings of science or unacquainted with the evidence for evolution. (Technically, they could also be deluded or lying, but that seems rather uncharitable to say. Oops.)"

- Todd Wood, PhD., YEC​

:execute:

Were you planning on being anything but a troll? :troll:

:doh:
Projection.

 

[noguru]

Nope.

Were you planning on being anything but a troll? :troll:

This is Sprite's way of saying;

I lost the debate, and now I will throw out inaccurate allegations about the person who has allowed me to look like the buffoon that I am.

 

[Stripe]

Creationism relies on assertions.

Every idea relies on assertions.

[Creationism relies on] demonstrably false claims.

Perhaps you can quote one of the claims I have made and show how it is wrong.

Or just keep being a troll. :troll:

Choose well. :up:

 

[The Barbarian]

Barbarian asks:
So why are you setting yourself up as Pope, telling other Christians what to believe?

Stipe admits:

Inferiority complex.

That's consistent with your behavior, yes.