Serious question. Thanks.
Serious question. Thanks.
Correct.The redeemed and only the redeemed inherit eternal life.
See my response to truster.The redeemed... I'm not sure what that means. Thanks.
Correct.
Since no one can redeem themselves, therefore God must choose to redeem them.
The sheep, whom God selects, receive their inheritance (Matthew 25).
Human corruption doesn't strike you as requiring justice? Do you think of yourself as a perfect being?That doesn’t strike you as extremely cruel?
That doesn’t strike you as extremely cruel?
Human corruption doesn't strike you as requiring justice? Do you think of yourself as a perfect being?
God's right judgment of corrupt humanity is not cruel. The fact that God mercifully and graciously lets us live is an extremely loving extension on a right sentencing. "The wages of sin is death."
Winston, it strikes me that you harbor thoughts that you are somehow a "good" person. Why do you lie to yourself?
The real question is: Why anyone?Justice is served in Christ on those sinners who have been chosen for election...the real question is why not everyone?
The real question is: Why anyone?
What human ever merited God's redemption?
God is not obligated to redeem even one human, let alone all humans... universal.
Tscott, God does not give you the answer you ask, just as the person hiring doesn't explain why candidate C got the job rather than candidates A, B, D and E, let alone the other 500 applicants. Was the owner obligated to hire them all? Tscott, God is not obligated. You have to accept that, whether you like it or not
Human corruption doesn't strike you as requiring justice?
Do you think of yourself as a perfect being?
God's right judgment of corrupt humanity is not cruel.
The fact that God mercifully and graciously lets us live is an extremely loving extension on a right sentencing.
"The wages of sin is death."
Winston, it strikes me that you harbor thoughts that you are somehow a "good" person. Why do you lie to yourself?
Only if there is no reason for not choosing everyone. If those who are condemned condemned themselves by refusing to put their faith in the Son then so be it. I contend that they were as perfectly able to choose to be holy as everyone else.
Each human that ever lived has the exact same ability to see that Jesus was real
That's easy to think when you live in a country where there's a Christian church every square mile.
In reality it's just a naive and even a bit shallow notion- to say everyone has the ability to see Jesus is no more compelling than saying everyone has the ability to do, well, anything.
You can't expect that a Muslim out in Turkey for example can reasonably be expected the same as you to just turn Christian and forsake everything they know.
Your first paragraph is in direct disagreement with the Bible.No. Humans didn't choose the corruption; they didn't create it, they can't escape it.
No earthly idea where you're getting that.
Humans can be judged as less than perfect, but they can't be faulted for it. They didn't choose to be that way. In other words, separating the chaff from the wheat makes sense, but blaming the chaff for being chaff does not make sense.
It sounds like you're talking about a cruel dictator you happen to love and serve, like something in a movie...
Again, no earthly idea where you're getting that. Nothing I said in anyway imaginable indicates I think I'm perfect.