When Trump defines you

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chair

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ok doser said:
Which was a tiny fraction of what Stalin did.

Which was a tiny fraction of what Mao did.
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Mao and Stalin were bad news. definitely. So if Trump says something that is not true, should we say he is "lying like Stalin"? "or "spreading lies like Mao"? or just stick to ""lying Nazi-style" ? Or maybe all three?

Or perhaps he is just plain lying, and none of those comparisons are reasonable.
 
Arthur Brain

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ok doser said:
Should white supremacists have a voice?
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Sure, I prefer bat crazy bile and hate speech to be on public display as opposed to behind closed doors so the perpetrators of it can be roundly recognized for the morons that they are although there's no problem with sites like youtube removing such garbage from their platform either.
 
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Arthur Brain said:
Sure, I prefer bat crazy bile and hate speech to be on public display as opposed to behind closed doors so the perpetrators of it can be roundly recognized for the morons that they are although there's no problem with sites like youtube removing such garbage from their platform either.
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Do you consider the following from wiki to be bat crazy bile and hate speech from morons spewing garbage:

"white people are superior to those of other races and thus should dominate them"

There are two parts to this

Do you agree that white people are superior to those of other races?

Do you agree that white people thus should dominate them?
 
Arthur Brain

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ok doser said:
Do you consider the following from wiki to be bat crazy bile and hate speech from morons spewing garbage:

"white people are superior to those of other races and thus should dominate them"

There are two parts to this

Do you agree that white people are superior to those of other races?

Do you agree that white people thus should dominate them?
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No, but then in relation to the ignorant white supremacists who spew their feeble little garbage, they likely don't realize their own heritage half the time anyway. Another irony.
 
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Arthur Brain said:
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Will you admit that white people have created superior cultures from ancient Greece to ancient Rome to the British Empire?

Will you recognize that the unprecedented period of prosperity in which we live today is largely a result of white culture?
 
Arthur Brain

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ok doser said:
Will you admit that white people have created superior cultures from ancient Greece to ancient Rome to the British Empire?

Will you recognize that the unprecedented period of prosperity in which we live today is largely a result of white culture?
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How do you define "superior" in relation? Or "white culture" for that matter...

The Roman Empire didn't end well despite practical advancements that were made and the British Empire was hardly perfect either.
 
ok doser

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Arthur Brain said:
How do you define "superior"? Or "white culture" for that matter...
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Was ancient Greece a superior culture?

Was ancient Rome a superior culture?

Was the British Empire a superior culture?

Is the American Empire a superior culture?
 
Arthur Brain

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ok doser said:
Was ancient Greece a superior culture?

Was ancient Rome a superior culture?

Was the British Empire a superior culture?

Is the American Empire a superior culture?
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Again, superior in relation to what? The Roman Empire collapsed, the British Empire had a lot of blood on its hands and the "American Empire"?

What do you define as a "superior culture" and how does that specifically pertain to "white" as you seem to be arguing?
 
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Looks like Donald Trump's sister, Maryanne Trump Barry, has a bad case of TDS:

Maryanne Trump Barry was serving as a federal judge when she heard her brother, President Trump, suggest on Fox News, “maybe I’ll have to put her at the border” amid a wave of refugees entering the United States. At the time, children were being separated from their parents and put in cramped quarters while court hearings dragged on.

“All he wants to do is appeal to his base,” Barry said in a conversation secretly recorded by her niece, Mary L. Trump. “He has no principles. None. None. And his base, I mean my God, if you were a religious person, you want to help people. Not do this.”

Barry, 83, was aghast at how her 74-year-old brother operated as president. “His tweets and lying, oh my God,” she said. “I’m talking too freely, but you know. The change of stories. The lack of preparation. The lying.”

At one point Barry said to her niece, “It’s the phoniness of it all. It’s the phoniness and this cruelty. Donald is cruel.”

Mary Trump, 55, told The Post recently that her uncle is unfit to be president and she plans to do “everything in my power” to elect Joe Biden.

-- https://www.startribune.com/in-secre...him/572196022/
 
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chair

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ok doser said:
Was ancient Greece a superior culture?

Was ancient Rome a superior culture?

Was the British Empire a superior culture?

Is the American Empire a superior culture?
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"Superior" in what way? And superior to what other culture?
Was Greek culture superior to Persian culture of the time? How about Chinese culture of the time?
Was Medieval Islamic culture superior to Christian culture of the time?
You might hear some very negative things about the British Empire in quite a few places in the world.

As far as modern US culture today- first of all- what is it, exactly? And is it good? I'm not so sure.
 
Arthur Brain

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chair said:
"Superior" in what way? And superior to what other culture?
Was Greek culture superior to Persian culture of the time? How about Chinese culture of the time?
Was Medieval Islamic culture superior to Christian culture of the time?
You might hear some very negative things about the British Empire in quite a few places in the world.

As far as modern US culture today- first of all- what is it, exactly? And is it good? I'm not so sure.
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Yep, and speaking as a "Brit", there's plenty to criticize about the "British Empire" and then some...
 
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ok doser said:
Will you admit that white people have created superior cultures from ancient Greece to ancient Rome to the British Empire?

Will you recognize that the unprecedented period of prosperity in which we live today is largely a result of white culture?
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I would say the prosperity is a result of what's known as "the protestant work ethic" which includes all races.
 
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chair

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ok doser said:
Will you admit that white people have created superior cultures from ancient Greece to ancient Rome to the British Empire?

Will you recognize that the unprecedented period of prosperity in which we live today is largely a result of white culture?
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A little historical perspective is worth considering. What about the prosperity of the Tang dynasty? Of the Persian Empire? Of the Muslim empires? Of the Mayas? Of modern China? Of Japan?

What is this "white culture" that you speak of? Why do you call it "white"?

Also: "Prosperity" isn't so clear-cut a measure as one would like. Are Native Americans better off with western "prosperity" than they were before Europeans showed up? How did Roman slaves view Roman prosperity? How did the persecuted early Christians view it?
 
ok doser

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chair said:
And superior to what other culture?
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Congratulations chair for recognizing that "superior" is a comparative term and thus leads to the question "compared to what?"
 
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