Lon
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ALL freedoms have parameters. There is no such thing as running wild naked in the streets, freedom.So much for Free Speech and Freedom of Expression in America, then.
........... if I believe what you say, that is.
1) Meth in his system - not rehabilitated no matter what you say, it is a DIRECT violation of his parole. 2) Babies. Did you read the reporter in Portland? The one who said BLM is not about Black Lives? That its about cabin fever, angst, and irresponsibility? 3) ONLY 2 years ago, Floyd was involved in a heinous crime. HOW MUCH rehabilitation can 2 years do for somebody? :nono: Not much. Prison, except in Rhode Island (and voluntary) and a few other states, does not rehabilitate. It punishes. At the very least, you've had your history and civics lesson on America today.You seem to cling to any claims that might help to show that Mr Floyd was bad. You seem to forget/discard claims about his rehabilitation and the past records of those police officers. That looks strange.....
No, they obtained permits.I don't believe that for a moment. Many of the marches, demonstrations and movements that changed your country forever were certainly not issued with anything .......... I'm thinking iof the Civil Rights movement.
No, all of them. All of them without permits are illegal. We've had MANY peaceful marches, organized, responsible and LEGAL.You wanted the teenagers who shot in to that vehicle to be arrested and fined?
They wouldn't get fined, Lon, they'd get tried for a much more serious crime than attract fines. They still will be, I reckon.
Good.I am an onlooker. I will read any COMPLETE incident descriptions which you may have........ COMPLETE.
Parsing to absurdity. You are just being contentious now over NO ARGUMENT. :doh:Wrong. Totally twisted idea.
Trials are to determine guilt........ or innocence!
Get it right.
Right, not even a moments silence for those precious babies, or a "stop, wait a minute...Did a black man just kill another black man on THE DAY we started marching for their lives to matter????!!!" Nope. They didn't and you didn't. I cried for that father and the other for the mother and cried again for cold babies in the ground.The World will not stop in its determination because of the stupid and dreadful actions of a few youths armed with legal guns who were not trained, tested before they were allowed to have them. And they almost certainly won;'t be insured for 3rd party risks.
You've NO idea where I am at on gun laws. None. Nada. Not at all.You should be ashamed, because you've all let this guns-awash situation continue...... the usual excuse is so that Americans can defend themselves against any wicked government that arises............. but you feel that groups should apply for permits to demonstrate.
Guessing in the dark. I didn't even say if I owned one. THIS thread isn't about your random 'other' politics.Your kids have almost certainly not taken part in any mandatory training, testing, do not carry 3rd party liability insurance, their hiomes were not inspected and passed as reasonably secure for guns., they haven't got approved safes for guns, and more. Am I right?
Insisted? I participated in free schools for two years. THIS isn't that thread. You are on a soapbox and trying to marginalize me on your whole political spectrum. Knock that off.Lon........ when have you ever insisted upon the automatic and free provision for subsistence, welfare, education and medicare for all American children to adulthood?
As you can tell, I'm not against the need to reform society and hire police to 'protect and serve' rather than being trained as military agents. I'm very much for restructuring them, especially in the South. I've seen those abuses. What I'm against are 'irresponsible, complicit, and counter-violent actions. Yes people have a right to defend themselves, but they need to show restraint. If I were leading this movement, I'd get permits and make rules and do things to ensure thugs and criminals didn't march with me. Perhaps I'd raise funds to hire all black police to monitor my march. I'm VERY angry at illegal and irresponsible marches that have led to loss of precious lives and, injury and property.I don't know about the incident that killed that girl. I don't know exactly what happened. I don't know why she and her family were in a vehicle, or what they were doing.
Would you like to show exactly what happened?
If you are mad about that too, welcome aboard! If not, you are part of the problem. My anger isn't but expressed peaceably in a thread. Its a good place. No guns. No violence. Monitored by good mods. Its a good place. A responsible place. A place where I'm not complicit in other's deaths.