glassjester
Well-known member
I agree. It's possible for us, as fallible individuals, to hold false beliefs.
So what are we to do when two of us disagree on the meaning of a passage in Scripture, or on theology? We can't both be right.
What would make you Catholic?
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I agree. It's possible for us, as fallible individuals, to hold false beliefs.
So what are we to do when two of us disagree on the meaning of a passage in Scripture, or on theology? We can't both be right.
Brother Vinny
Active member
I don't know. What if we're both wrong and theology is a big waste of time? Who do we use as arbiter of the real?
Right Divider
Body part
That's just silly and illogical. Just like both the RCC and so many poster here on TOL.
More rhetoric in place of an actual argument in favor of your position.
I'll try to make this simple for you.
The church on Pentecost was completely Israel. It was NOT something new.
The body of Christ was revealed to Paul when Israel, as a nation, continued to reject Christ.
Someday, they (Israel) will be restored.
The RCC is an abomination attempting to steal what Israel was promised and teaches evil doctrine in the place of God's revelation to and through Paul and those that follow his sound doctrine.
genuineoriginal
New member
No, the church must conform to the specifications of the Bible.
There are many theological doctrines that I once thought were true that I discovered were false when I actually studied the Bible.
It is possible that studying the Bible can free you from the many false theological doctrines that came from the quill of Augustine.
Yes, Augustine is a great example of an individual that misunderstood Scripture.
genuineoriginal
New member
strange fire
strange fire
That is the error of strange fire that Nadab and Abihu were killed for.
strange fire
The Roman Catholic church is not the Israelites, and God never told the Roman Catholic church to make a temple with lots of gold, brass, purple cloth, and many many idols.
That is the error of strange fire that Nadab and Abihu were killed for.
Satan
Mocking You
New member
I'd have to have a time machine and make several jumps back to the first through fourth century. It may well be that long ago the Catholic Church was once the true church of Christ, though I doubt it. It's so far off the rails nowadays that nothing short of personally witnessing its early history with my own eyes would convince me.
BTW, the thread title and the actual question in the post are two different questions. I answered the question in the post in my first paragraph (above.) To answer the thread title - - nothing could make me become a Catholic.
BTW, the thread title and the actual question in the post are two different questions. I answered the question in the post in my first paragraph (above.) To answer the thread title - - nothing could make me become a Catholic.
Cruciform
New member
Thanks for the clear answer. Don't know why that was so difficult for musterion to spit out... :doh:
Cruciform
New member
Your personal feelings about it are hardly the point, are they. Your comments here merely dodge the truth question.
brewmama
New member
Hey, my Church is totally grounded in truth. Your Popes seem to think so too. Catch up!
Cruciform
New member
I'm fully there, believe me; I know what the Catechism says on this point. And yet, only one of the two---Catholicism or Orthodoxy---is in fact that one historic Church founded by Jesus Christ himself in 33 A.D. Jesus vowed to build his "Church"* (not "churchES"), and it matters whether or not one is connected with Christ's one Church.
Gaudium de veritate,
Cruciform
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*Matthew 16:18-19; 1 Tim 3:15.
glassjester
Well-known member
Ok, so how can you know which of you two rightly understood Scripture?
You can't prefer your own interpretation simply because it's your interpretation. The NT commands us to be of one faith, so we're expected to reconcile theological differences, not revel in them - founding new "churches" whenever a new interpretation or doctrine is thought up by any individual on the planet.
glassjester
Well-known member
We could scale our conversation back to the realm of philosophy and natural theology, I guess, but I figured we had something of a common ground in those areas, and any conversation would progress from that common ground.
The NT tells us to be of one faith, right?
Brother Vinny
Active member
I believe so.
Going to be on the road for work for the next couple weeks. I'll check in here when I can.
