Yes. Thank you for saying so. I don't have the history on this but it certain sounds right and true.
What the Law and the Bible say about Homosexuality.
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Yes. Thank you for saying so. I don't have the history on this but it certain sounds right and true.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
as far as I know, there are no federal laws in the US that criminalize adultery
US military code differs
okay
thank you
When I think of the laws of the nation I suppose we have the constitution and federal law
Arthur,
Of course you are advocating for harmful behavior when you deny that it should be punished, and instead of being punished it should be considered harmless behavior.
The other message I get from you is that those who harm others by their behavior should not be punished because punishment hurts. Where is your compassion for those who are harmed by those behaviors? That hurts too. Have you ever been molested? I can tell you by personal experience the long term effects of that are extremely painful. Where is your compassion for me?
Evidently, by the things you repeatedly say you're far more concerned for those who harm others than those who are harmed by their behavior. I look at things just the opposite for I consider that point of view harmful for society as a whole. I view punishing those who harm others as the way to protect society from them. I take the long view, not the myopic view. Victims, and potential victims, must be protected from their abusers. To deny that shows a major lack of compassion for out fellow man.
That's a pretty narrow view of the military code of justice, The military code of justice is federal law....
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
right, but it doesn't apply to the general citizenry
What about if a person wants to join the military?
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
then they will fall under that code of justice
their previous behavior won't be examined, but any instances of adultery committed while serving would be liable to prosecution
oh, okay.
I suppose it would be like a person who wants to be a professional football player. They can never use drugs.
I know. It's still federal law though for the US army is a federal organization. I'm just being pedantic. And sort of pulling your chain a little while I'm at it. My sense of humor can get pretty obtuse sometimes.
How did the army come to have it as a part of its code or law?
Every army must have a specific code of justice for armies have a specific reason for existence, meaning that they must have their own codes of behavior. The lesser discipline enforced upon the general public could never be allowed in an army. Soldiers must obey if an army is to be useful and successful. Armies must have a higher level of discipline imposed on them for they do things that most human beings will not willingly do, such as charging into live fire coming from an enemy that is out to kill them. Without army discipline, put in place by the military code of justice, very few soldiers would be willing to face those high probabilities of death. The punishment for not obeying an order to attack is enforced though by the army's laws. If they don't obey orders they can spend many years in prison or even face execution.
What I mean is you are arguing that it is federal law but that it doesn't exist in other federal law. I am wondering how it became law or was adopted for the code if the federal government or law did not already accept it. Being that the states have laws, the federal government may have had no need.
Idolater
"Matthew 16:18-19" Dispensationalist (Catholic) χρ
Idolater
"Matthew 16:18-19" Dispensationalist (Catholic) χρ
Wherever there's a 'Catechism of the Catholic Church' lying around, for starters.
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/ccc_toc.htm
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Anything you want to point out? You know that I am talking about the state or the government or states or our nation's laws?
I am not Catholic. I do not accept Catholic doctrine for the law of the United States of America. However, I have grown up in the church, and I recognize issues with law between church and state.
The nation of Israel has the Torah, and I believe the United States of America should too.
Idolater
"Matthew 16:18-19" Dispensationalist (Catholic) χρ
Shalom.
Arthur Brain
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Hey, I have never been molested and have nothing but compassion for those who have been victims of any such atrocity and the like so that's not an argument you can begin to use with me as I've had a family member be the victim of rape. You think I don't want to see the perpetrator face justice for what he did? The guy was never caught. I know gay people who's only "crime" among some of the more zealous is for simply being "abnormal" if they act on attractions with other consenting adults. I count a couple of those as my friends . I don't conflate homosexuality with pedophilia and have nothing but contempt for the latter, rape or any other atrocity inflicted on another human being so you get that through your head, okay?