Yet, so many men rise above the bad stuff in their lives and become wonderful, caring husbands and fathers!
Blessings to you.
"What Is Man....?"
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Yet, so many men rise above the bad stuff in their lives and become wonderful, caring husbands and fathers!
Blessings to you.
Oh, give me a freaking break
This thread is you trying to make 'real men' synonymous to all those who adhere to 'bybeeism'.
The shenanigans here aren't hard to see, only an idiot wouldn't know the intent of this thread.
Oh, give me a freaking break
This thread is you trying to make 'real men' synonymous to all those who adhere to 'bybeeism'.
The shenanigans here aren't hard to see, only an idiot wouldn't know the intent of this thread.
You don't!
Your husband sounds like a wonderful husband, father and son, Bybee.
My father, though far from perfect, is what I would consider a great example insofar as the dedication he gave to his mother, wife and children.
He took sole custody of my two older half bothers when my oldest was a toddler and the youngest was a baby. When my family moved to Concord, CA (I was five), he traveled back to W. Virginia to pick up my paternal grandmother, and she lived with the family until I was eighteen (she died of heart failure after complications from a stroke).
I always appreciated the fact that he expected the same from my brothers as he did of my sister and myself insofar as behavior.
For the first several years of my childhood, he did not agree with my mother going to church OR her insistence on putting my sister and myself in private Christian schools. However, over the years, he changed to the point of being the first person to wake us up on Sunday mornings because we were ALL going to church.
He worked hard all his life and in the end, it was his work that contributed to his death. Between the mines in W. Virginia and sheet metal work in CA, he died of CLD in 2004.
I think one of the reasons he grew into the man he did was because he wished to be the exact opposite of his own father. He succeeded.
My father, though far from perfect, is what I would consider a great example insofar as the dedication he gave to his mother, wife and children.
He took sole custody of my two older half bothers when my oldest was a toddler and the youngest was a baby. When my family moved to Concord, CA (I was five), he traveled back to W. Virginia to pick up my paternal grandmother, and she lived with the family until I was eighteen (she died of heart failure after complications from a stroke).
I always appreciated the fact that he expected the same from my brothers as he did of my sister and myself insofar as behavior.
For the first several years of my childhood, he did not agree with my mother going to church OR her insistence on putting my sister and myself in private Christian schools. However, over the years, he changed to the point of being the first person to wake us up on Sunday mornings because we were ALL going to church.
He worked hard all his life and in the end, it was his work that contributed to his death. Between the mines in W. Virginia and sheet metal work in CA, he died of CLD in 2004.
I think one of the reasons he grew into the man he did was because he wished to be the exact opposite of his own father. He succeeded.
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elohiym
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I think the answer to both questions can be found in Acts 17:28-29.
Good and comfortable words! Thanks!
Thanks for sharing Rusha. In good relationships we don't expect each other to be perfect. We show up in good times and bad!
genuineoriginal
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The question, "What is man?" makes me think of this poem:
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If—
BY RUDYARD KIPLING
If you can keep your head when all about you
__Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
__But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
__Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
__And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
__If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
__And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
__Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
__And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
__And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
__And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
__To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
__Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
__Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
__If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
__With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
__And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!
_____
If—
BY RUDYARD KIPLING
If you can keep your head when all about you
__Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
__But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
__Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
__And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
__If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
__And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
__Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
__And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
__And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
__And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
__To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
__Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
__Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
__If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
__With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
__And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!
_____
I love that poem! Thank you for sharing!
OCTOBER23
New member
BUSYBEE said,
Yet, so many men rise above the bad stuff in their lives
and become wonderful, caring husbands and fathers!
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VERY FEW RISE ABOVE IT
INSTEAD THEY FOLLOW THE SAME PATTERN
UNLESS GOD GIVES THEM HIS HOLY SPIRIT
WHICH GIVES THEM A CONSCIENCE
AND THEY SEE THEMSELVES AND REPENT
Yet, so many men rise above the bad stuff in their lives
and become wonderful, caring husbands and fathers!
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VERY FEW RISE ABOVE IT
INSTEAD THEY FOLLOW THE SAME PATTERN
UNLESS GOD GIVES THEM HIS HOLY SPIRIT
WHICH GIVES THEM A CONSCIENCE
AND THEY SEE THEMSELVES AND REPENT
I believe many men rise above difficulties which they experience in life. We do not know the personal struggles of another person. But God knows the heart of all persons.
JosephR
New member
investing in gold I see , Canadian mint... yes all show what they covet,, and all speak against what they hate..or they are..
seems a futile investment for a christian who would not store up treasure in the earth..
funny how the spirit guides...
Yup! The Spirit guides us to be our best selves.
man is a free will animal
and
the free will must be tested
and
that is why we are here
you may not find the word test in your bible
you should wonder why
and
the free will must be tested
and
that is why we are here
you may not find the word test in your bible
you should wonder why
It is our God given free will that sets us apart, or so I believe.
We must make choices. And it is the basis for our choices that also sets us apart.
Victor Frankl found that the Jews who were able to stay alive in the concentration camps were those whose faith in God did not waiver.
Talk about being tested!
I tell the truth, partly, because my memory is bad! The truth is the truth and always the truth but, a lie changes.
LoneStar
New member
Now there is a man that knows what his role is.
You are there for her. No matter what mistakes she makes. When she's hurting, you are there to comfort her. To cradle her in your arms for as long as it takes for her to feel loved and secure.
She is the one you show no wrath towards.
In other words, you cherish her and cling to her no matter what her faults might be.
The one that looks at you with adoration for all you do for her. The one that feels like being in your arms is the safest place in the world. The one that may see your wrath on others, but never on her. The one that knows you will never abandon or forsake her.
Believe you me, it is a feeling you will never want to be without for the rest of your life. And you will proudly bust your *** to keep it.
The strength to fight that which is harmful to ourselves and to others requires the freedom to chose how to employ that strength.
Some use their strength to do harm to self and/or others.
And some do not.