What are the Real Reasons People Voted for Trump?

[Tambora]

Well you hardly come across as anyone with empathy for the poor.

We're done.

 

[glassjester]

Nope.

So why apply this story to government money?

 

[Arthur Brain]

We're done.

Ok then.

:e4e:

 

[Arthur Brain]

So why apply this story to government money?

Was the rich man the 'government'?

Those who would willingly deny the less well off and the poor any access to aid have more in common with the callousness of the guy however, especially when moaning about 'stealing'. The system is designed to aid everyone, including those who are working should they fall on hard times themselves.

Is it perfect? Nope, but it's better than a society that just allows the poor to starve.

 

[Danoh]

I don't deny crumbs.
I willingly help those I see in need.
And I would have more to do that with if the gov would quit stealing money out of my pocket.

You say the gov is stealing money out of your pocket?

Well then do what the Donald advises and problem solved

http://theologyonline.com/showthread.php?121351-Trump-at-His-Best

 

[ok doser]

The system is designed ...

i don't remember scripture mentioning reliance on "the system"


must be you guys have a different bible over there too

 

[Arthur Brain]

i don't remember scripture mentioning reliance on "the system"


must be you guys have a different bible over there too

I don't either, but then I wasn't even arguing that it did.

How about you take your 'Gorm McMancrush' thingy back to the chatbox?

:thumb:

 

[glassjester]

I don't either, but then I wasn't even arguing that it did.

You did, a little bit. Didn't you?

Was the rich man the 'government'?

 

[glassjester]

The story of Lazarus and the rich man stresses the importance of individuals caring for neighbors. Not a massive system of compulsory "donations."

Again, it's a cultural shift we need. Not a regulatory one.

 

[Arthur Brain]

You did, a little bit. Didn't you?

How?

 

[Arthur Brain]

The story of Lazarus and the rich man stresses the importance of individuals caring for neighbors. Not a massive system of compulsory "donations."

Again, it's a cultural shift we need. Not a regulatory one.

It could be read in a few different ways, although compassion and empathy would certainly inform the ethos. In a society whereby the only realistic way to reach most of the poor would be via governmental aid then why would people rail against it?

 

[glassjester]

In a society whereby the only realistic way to reach most of the poor would be via governmental aid then why would people rail against it?

Why is that the only realistic way to reach people?

And if it is, should our efforts not be put toward changing that fact (a cultural change), instead?

 

[glassjester]

How?

I asked why you related that story to government money, and you replied, "Is the rich man the government?"

 

[Arthur Brain]

Why is that the only realistic way to reach people?

And if it is, should our efforts not be put toward changing that fact (a cultural change), instead?

Because unless you can explain how individual or even group charity is going to reach into every area of a nation's poor is how. It's simply 'pie in the sky' thinking otherwise. Do I really need to underline the obvious yet more?

 

[Arthur Brain]

I asked why you related that story to government money, and you replied, "Is the rich man the government?"

So why don't you answer that question as you see it and let's take it from there.

 

[Crucible]

How far along in development must a human be in order for you to consider their deliberate killing to be murder?

When they are halfway through the birth canal and have seen the light of day, which is something referenced too many times in the Bible to be mere coincidence.

 

[ok doser]

In a society whereby the only realistic way to reach most of the poor would be via governmental aid...

unproven


what is provable is the fact that massive government programs to end poverty have had the opposite result - they have created a permanent class of impoverished citizens

 

[Crucible]

The story of Lazarus and the rich man stresses the importance of individuals caring for neighbors.

A shift which has never occurred in the history of the world. But dream high

 

[glassjester]

A shift which has never occurred in the history of the world. But dream high

Individuals have never helped each other?

 

[glassjester]

When they are halfway through the birth canal and have seen the light of day, which is something referenced too many times in the Bible to be mere coincidence.

So seeing light makes the body become a human being?

And what was it 2 seconds prior?
And what about blind babies?