Was God unloving for commanding homosexuals be put to death?

[Jefferson]

Leviticus 20:13 says, "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them."

Was God unloving for commanding that homosexuals be put to death?

 

[philosophizer]

No.

 

[Elaine]

Re: Was God unloving for commanding homosexuals be put to death?

Originally posted by Jefferson
Was God unloving for commanding that homosexuals be put to death?

No. Sodomites choose of their own free will to partake of their homosexual behavior and suffer the consequences. It would have been unloving of God to allow homosexuality and the diseases it cultivates to harm those who are innocent.

 

[Goose]

Re: Re: Was God unloving for commanding homosexuals be put to death?

Re: Re: Was God unloving for commanding homosexuals be put to death?

Originally posted by Elaine
No. Sodomites choose of their own free will to partake of their homosexual behavior and suffer the consequences. It would have been unloving of God to allow homosexuality and the diseases it cultivates to harm those who are innocent.

Wow. Nice answer.

 

[Elaine]

Thanks, Goose. But I'm sure that you could have said it better yourself. :up:

 

[Ross]

Lev 20:9 If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother, and his blood will be on his own head.

I'm sure my son will understand tonight when I kill him for his smartmouth last night.

 

[Nineveh]

Originally posted by Ross
Lev 20:9 If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother, and his blood will be on his own head.

I'm sure my son will understand tonight when I kill him for his smartmouth last night.

Your son curses you? That must be an awful thing to have to deal with Did you ever spank him before it got that far?

 

[shilohproject]

Originally posted by Nineveh
Your son curses you? That must be an awful thing to have to deal with Did you ever spank him before it got that far?

I believe the post to have been sarcastic...

 

[Turbo]

Originally posted by Ross
Lev 20:9 If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother, and his blood will be on his own head.

I'm sure my son will understand tonight when I kill him for his smartmouth last night.

Originally stated by Christ
He answered and said to them, "Why do you also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition? For God commanded, saying, 'Honor your father and your mother'; and, 'He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.' But you say, 'Whoever says to his father or mother, "Whatever profit you might have received from me is a gift to God"-- then he need not honor his father or mother.' Thus you have made the commandment of God of no effect by your tradition. Hypocrites!" Matthew 15:3-7

Jesus was not ashamed of this commandment, Ross. Why are you? Why do you mock God's commandments?

 

[shilohproject]

Originally posted by Turbo
Jesus was not ashamed of this commandment, Ross. Why are you?

Why do you conclude Ross is "ashamed" of it?

 

[Turbo]

Originally posted by shilohproject
Why do you conclude Ross is "ashamed" of it?

It seems to me he thinks that commandment was a bad idea on God's part.

 

[philosophizer]

Just what does "cursing" mean anyway?

 

[philosophizer]

Originally posted by Turbo
It seems to me he thinks that commandment was a bad idea on God's part.

Or he really is going to kill his son. :shocked:

 

[shilohproject]

Originally posted by Turbo
It seems to me he thinks that commandment was a bad idea on God's part.

Maybe so. I took his comments as a statement about how people often pick and choose which ones they think are important to support.

 

[philosophizer]

Originally posted by shilohproject
Maybe so. I took his comments as a statement about how people often pick and choose which ones they think are important to support.

...meaning that he either disagrees with God, or he is on his way to kill his son.

 

[Turbo]

Originally posted by philosophizer
Just what does "cursing" mean anyway?

This passage might give you some idea.

"If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and who, when they have chastened him, will not heed them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city, to the gate of his city. And they shall say to the elders of his city, 'This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.' Then all the men of his city shall stone him to death with stones; so you shall put away the evil from among you, and all Israel shall hear and fear." Deuteronomy 21:18-21

 

[philosophizer]

Originally posted by Turbo
This passage might give you some idea.

"If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and who, when they have chastened him, will not heed them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city, to the gate of his city. And they shall say to the elders of his city, 'This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.' Then all the men of his city shall stone him to death with stones; so you shall put away the evil from among you, and all Israel shall hear and fear." Deuteronomy 21:18-21

Right. I think a lot of people confuse "cursing" with "using profanity". "Cursing" includes much more than just that.

 

[Turbo]

Originally posted by shilohproject
Maybe so. I took his comments as a statement about how people often pick and choose which ones they think are important to support.

But he didn't even properly apply the verse he was using to show that some of God's commandments are silly. The Bible, particularly the Proverbs, tells parents to spank their children to discipline them. If "smartmouthing" were an example of cursing worthy of execution, what in the world is left for spanking?

 

[shilohproject]

Originally posted by philosophizer
...meaning that he either disagrees with God, or he is on his way to kill his son.

...or he is pointing out the inconsistant way people apply scripture?

 

[Turbo]

Who's being inconsistant? I suppose he didn't expect to find support for the verse he quoted. He was hoping we would apply scripture inconsistantly.

Oh well. Better luck next time.