Undercover Planned Parenthood Videos Were Altered, Analysis Finds

[aCultureWarrior]

Then the video means nothing either way.

To barbarians a woman talking about selling dismembered body parts of dead babies while she's munching away at a salad means nothing, to people with an ounce of decency it shows what PP really is.

 

[1Way1Truth1Life]

They release 2 videos at the same time. The fully unedited video and the short News style edited video for easy digestion and highlights just like every single news outlet does.

 

[Nazaroo]

Let's play "even if."

Even if parts were sold, is that worse to you than if they were just thrown in the trash like normal?

Its equally bad if baby killers get away with it.

Killing babies is not birth control.

Killing baby killers is not murder.

 

[patrick jane]

For those who had not clicked on Fusion gps website here is a screenshot.

That's it. There is nothing else to it. :chuckle: plz expert analysis more like experts in deception

explain your thread please, i and many will not click a link or website unless you give a little background, foreground or some grounds for starting a thread. maybe it's just me, either way - :chuckle:

 

[jeffblue101]

CNN offers a much more balanced report. http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/27/politics/planned-parenthood-videos-congress-report/

"At this point, it is impossible to characterize the extent to which CMP's undisclosed edits and cuts distort the meaning of the encounters the videos purport to document," the report said. "However, the manipulation of the videos does mean they have no evidentiary value in a legal context and cannot be relied upon for any official inquiries unless supplemented by CMP's original material and forensic authentication that this material is supplied in unaltered form."

CMP officials have uploaded several videos to its YouTube page that it says are unedited. But Planned Parenthood's investigators say due to the compression process of uploading to YouTube, even the videos that CMP claims are unedited are actually edited....

David Daleiden, head of CMP, dismissed Planned Parenthood's experts and labeled the report's findings a "complete failure."

"Planned Parenthood's desperate, 11th-hour attempt to pay their hand-picked "experts" to distract from the crimes documented on video is a complete failure," he said in a statement to CNN. "The absence of bathroom breaks and waiting periods between meetings does not change the hours of dialogue with top-level Planned Parenthood executives eager to manipulate abortion procedures to get high-quality baby parts for financially profitable sale."…

CMP plans to release all of its unedited videos to lawmakers, Daleiden told CNN.

"We are providing all raw data to law enforcement and Congressional investigators," he said. "The temporary restraining order in a lawsuit from Planned Parenthood's allies at the National Abortion Federation is currently preventing us from releasing a lot of that to investigators, however."…

Daleiden said Planned Parenthood must release their contracts with biomedical companies for a thorough investigation to happen.

"If Planned Parenthood really wants to disprove the now-overwhelming body of evidence that their affiliates traffick in baby body parts, they should release their fetal tissue contracts with the for-profit company StemExpress for law enforcement, Congress, and all the world to see," he said.

Daleiden has accused Planned Parenthood of using its political allies to discredit the anti-abortion group, and the White House has previously dismissed CMP as an extremist group. And a judge who issued a restraining order against CMP preventing the group from releasing videos was appointed by Obama and contributed to his campaign.

Fusion GPS was involved with efforts to smear Mitt Romney donors during Obama's re-election campaign, according to the Wall Street Journal.

 

[Kdall]

Uh oh...

Undercover Planned Parenthood Videos Were Altered, Analysis Finds

Well.....that changes things a bit. They aren't off the hook yet, but they look a lot better now than they did yesterday

 

[rocketman]

The people in the videos said what they said. This is beyond question, so the videos speak for themselves.

Word...

 

[Nathon Detroit]

Uh oh...

Undercover Planned Parenthood Videos Were Altered, Analysis Finds

The company that did this investigation was hired by Planned Parenthood. :think:

And even they said....

"there is no evidence that the anti-abortion group behind the attack made up dialogue."

And there was no.... “widespread evidence of substantive video manipulation.”

 

[Granite]

So far, all state investigations have turned up zero evidence of wrongdoing. If there's a conspiracy or cover up at work, or at least an effort to help PP get away with something, the scale and scope of this is mind boggling.

 

[TrakeM]

"Facts" and "analysis" isn't something the anti PP people are interested in hearing about.

 

[Nathon Detroit]

So far, all state investigations have turned up zero evidence of wrongdoing. If there's a conspiracy or cover up at work, or at least an effort to help PP get away with something, the scale and scope of this is mind boggling.

"Facts" and "analysis" isn't something the anti PP people are interested in hearing about.

Heads firmly planted in sand.

 

[Granite]

Heads firmly planted in sand.

No, it's the reality of the situation. So far there is no evidence of wrong doing to be found by any state (especially southern conservative states who'd pounce on such information) that's investigated PP in light of these videos. So...why not? Is there a state-by-state cover up or is there nothing to find?

 

[aikido7]

Uh oh...

Undercover Planned Parenthood Videos Were Altered, Analysis Finds

So were the ACORN videos and the Shirley Sharrod videos released by breitbart.com. But the truth came out too late.

Congress stopped funding ACORN and Shirley Sharrod got fired from her job.

1. First comes an ideological blog or other source claiming something happened.

2. Then cable news outlets such as FOX "News" push it out onto the airwaves constantly.

3. Then they begin to ask why it is being "ignored" by liberal sources.

4. So then the liberal outfits start covering the story.

5. And then the truth finally comes out but the damage has already been done.

The same thing happened with the 2000 presidential election. The actual vote count in Florida showed Gore winning, but by that time the Supreme Court had already made its decision to stop the recount.

 

[Granite]

So were the ACORN videos and the Shirley Sharrod videos released by breitbart.com. But the truth came out too late.

Congress stopped funding ACORN and Shirley Sharrod got fired from her job.

1. First comes an ideological blog or other source claiming something happened.

2. Then cable news outlets such as FOX "News" push it out onto the airwaves constantly.

3. Then they begin to ask why it is being "ignored" by liberal sources.

4. So then the liberal outfits start covering the story.

5. And then the truth finally comes out but the damage has already been done.

The same thing happened with the 2000 presidential election. The actual vote count in Florida showed Gore winning, but by that time the Supreme Court had already made its decision to stop the recount.

All they need is the meme. The clickbait. The headline. Once the meme is in place it's virtually impossible to ever undo it.

 

[Ktoyou]

So far, all state investigations have turned up zero evidence of wrongdoing. If there's a conspiracy or cover up at work, or at least an effort to help PP get away with something, the scale and scope of this is mind boggling.

What does that really mean?

 

[Granite]

What does that really mean?

I don't think there's anything complicated in my post.

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/201...lanned-parenthood-fetal-tissue-south-carolina

"But so far, those investigations are falling flat. Completed probes in Georgia, Indiana, Massachusetts, and South Dakota have spent thousands in taxpayer money but turned up no evidence that Planned Parenthood is trafficking in the sale of fetal tissue. And in most of the other states that have launched investigations—including Ohio, Arizona, Texas, and Kansas—Planned Parenthood affiliates don't even have fetal tissue donation programs, making it hard to believe the states will find any illegal activity related to the practice. In Louisiana, where Gov. Bobby Jindal ordered an investigation in mid-July, Planned Parenthood does not even operate a single abortion clinic."

So: Is everyone involved in these investigations lying, or incompetent? Every last one? Or is there simply nothing to find here?

 

[Nathon Detroit]

No, it's the reality of the situation. So far there is no evidence of wrong doing to be found by any state (especially southern conservative states who'd pounce on such information) that's investigated PP in light of these videos. So...why not? Is there a state-by-state cover up or is there nothing to find?

The real investigations haven't even begun yet.

Liberals protecting other liberals isn't exactly shocking.

 

[Quetzal]

The real investigations haven't even begun yet.

Liberals protecting other liberals isn't exactly shocking.

What makes an investigation real? I was under the impression there have been investigations since the videos broke.

 

[Granite]

The real investigations haven't even begun yet.

Liberals protecting other liberals isn't exactly shocking.

And what constitutes "real," in your book? Jindal and company aren't exactly faking these that I can tell.

 

[Nathon Detroit]

And what constitutes "real," in your book?

Real = actual. Not just some state level buddy of Planned Parenthood saying "you're good dude don't worry about it we aren't going to even really look at the case". Which is what happened here in Colorado.