Ukraine Crisis

Avajs

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Nope

Because you're a retard
Aww, you are always so sweet. But, why would Trump take the Neville Chamberlain position v Putin? Why should anyone agree that Putin should wind up with any part of Ukraine? Do you expect Trump's peace plan will mean Putin will leave without keeping any of Ukraine's land?
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
Aww, you are always so sweet.
😘
But, why would Trump take the Neville Chamberlain position v Putin?
Neville Chamberlain declared war on Germany. Most people are ignorant of history and take the wrong lessons from the lead up to world war II
Why should anyone agree that Putin should wind up with any part of Ukraine?
Why shouldn't Ukraine be part of Russia?
Do you expect Trump's peace plan will mean Putin will leave without keeping any of Ukraine's land?
I have no idea
 

Avajs

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Neville Chamberlain declared war on Germany. Most people are ignorant of history and take the wrong lessons from the lead up to world war II

Why shouldn't Ukraine be part of Russia?

I have no idea
England declared war on Germany after Hitler invaded Poland, right? Or was war declared just for fun?
 

7djengo7

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But, why would Trump take the Neville Chamberlain position v Putin?
Neville Chamberlain, your fellow Brit?

Why are you taking the Putin position v the Ukraine?
Why should anyone agree that Putin should wind up with any part of Ukraine?
But that's what you're showing you agree with: that Putin should wind up with part of the Ukraine.
Do you expect Trump's peace plan will mean Putin will leave without keeping any of Ukraine's land?
Do you expect that your empty, hypocritical, TDS-leftard talking will mean Putin will leave without keeping any of the Ukraine?
 

Avajs

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Why would I do that? Are you suggesting that since I disagree with Trump I should go fight? I cannot disagree with Trump without risking my life? Sorry, but I have to pick and choose how I respond to Trump's ignorant anti-democracy policies. I just dont think that sending my 78 year old fanny over there would be appropriate or do much good, I think I am better off recognizing that his policies are anti American, pro rich and doing what I can to support rational politicians
On the other hand, do you agree with Putin's ability in invade Ukraine? If so, then the question is why were you not over there fighting for Mother Russia and the Russian Empire he wants to rebuild back when the US was supporting Ukraine?
I am very impressed with your ability to use color. Which Crayola color is your favorite?
 

Avajs

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Why would I do that? Are you suggesting that since I disagree with Trump I should go fight? I cannot disagree with Trump without risking my life? Sorry, but I have to pick and choose how I respond to Trump's ignorant anti-democracy policies. I just dont think that sending my 78 year old fanny over there would be appropriate or do much good, I think I am better off recognizing that his policies are anti American, pro rich and doing what I can to support rational politicians
On the other hand, do you agree with Putin's ability in invade Ukraine? If so, then the question is why were you not over there fighting for Mother Russia and the Russian Empire he wants to rebuild back when the US was supporting Ukraine?
I am very impressed with your ability to use color. Which Crayola color is your favorite?
Ah, sorry, the Crayola comment was a cheap shot. Mea culpa.
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
You certainly have a different view of history.
Why should Ukraine be part of Russia?
Historically it's been a part of Russia for longer than it's been an independent country. All of its modern development, it's development into a modern first world country has happened under the stewardship of Russia / USSR.
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
England declared war on Germany after Hitler invaded Poland, right?
Chamberlain declared war on Germany 2 days after the German invasion of Poland, in compliance with agreements between England and Poland. 85 million people died before that was over.

How many people do you think should die in order to force Putin to withdraw from Eastern Ukraine? 85 million? 850 million?
 

Avajs

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Historically it's been a part of Russia for longer than it's been an independent country. All of its modern development, it's development into a modern first world country has happened under the stewardship of Russia / USSR.
Ukraine has been independent since 1991. Yes, it was part of the USSR. Also I think at times part of Poland and or Austria-Hungary? But sorry, using your analysis the US should still be part of England, there should be no Israel. And I'm not certain that its modern development was all at the hands of Russia/Ussr. the USSR was not big on making its smaller republics very successful. What about the other Baltic states--Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova--if they were part of the old USSR should Putin just take them back?
 

Avajs

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Chamberlain declared war on Germany 2 days after the German invasion of Poland, in compliance with agreements between England and Poland. 85 million people died before that was over.

How many people do you think should die in order to force Putin to withdraw from Eastern Ukraine? 85 million? 850 million?
Is that the question that drives the decision? If a Marxist Communist dictator, who thinks nothing of killing those who speak out against him, threatens a big war--is it a walk-over for Putin, he gets to do what he wants? He gets to put more people under his thumb? The guy with the biggest gun always wins?
I am confused. the right wing screams about the Marxist/Communist left yet seems perfectly willing to let a real Marxist Communist run roughshod over Ukraine.
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
Is that the question that drives the decision? If a Marxist Communist dictator, who thinks nothing of killing those who speak out against him, threatens a big war--is it a walk-over for Putin, he gets to do what he wants? He gets to put more people under his thumb? The guy with the biggest gun always wins?
I am confused. the right wing screams about the Marxist/Communist left yet seems perfectly willing to let a real Marxist Communist run roughshod over Ukraine.
What's your solution? How do you force Putin out of eastern Ukraine without sparking a nuclear exchange and world war III?
 
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