trying linux mint rather than windows10

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As an expert in this area, I can highly recommend Linux and particularly Linux Mint. I use it both at home and at work.

BTW, it's based on Ubuntu but the user interface (desktop) is much better and more familiar to Windows users.
 

way 2 go

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As an expert in this area, I can highly recommend Linux and particularly Linux Mint. I use it both at home and at work.

BTW, it's based on Ubuntu but the user interface (desktop) is much better and more familiar to Windows users.

so we can ask you questions if we or I get stuck :confused:
 

rexlunae

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Many thanks. I have a laptop that runs XP.

Yikes! That's a pretty dangerous way to run. XP is past the end of its life, so it isn't going to get patches for security issues.

Unfortunately it is protected by disk encryption software and I don't have the password.

That...doesn't make a lot of sense. If the disk is encrypted, how can you access it at all without the password? Is this some sort of proprietary thing?

It is so slow that it is near useless.

When people tell me their Windows XP systems are slow, I usually assume that they're riddled with malware. Windows has gotten a lot better about security, but some of it is a result of what you intentionally install on the PC, which only improves by changing your practices.

Is it possibe to wipe the OS and leave the other stuff there and replace with Linux?

It should be possible to wipe everything and install Linux, regardless of software disk encryption. If you're running XP now, you probably have a fairly old, likely 32-bit computer, so make sure to get the 32-bit version of whatever OS you go with. I use Ubuntu, generally like it. Make sure you backup anything files you don't want to lose first, because wiping the hard drive will delete everything.

As Delmar mentioned, you could also dual-boot with Windows, but this is more complex, and if you are having problems with XP anyway (and you really should stop using that version of Windows), it seems not really worth it to me. Alternatively, you could go get a newer version of Windows. If you're looking to keep a large portion of the experience, and run a lot of the same software, that's probably closer to what you want. But, you'll have to pay for it, and it honestly might be more reasonable to get a new computer at that point. Generally, I think Microsoft did a pretty respectable job with Windows 10.
 

rexlunae

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I think the only way to undo it is to reformat the hard drive and start over.

All you really have to do is remove whatever partitions belong to the OS you're getting rid of and (potentially) reinstalling the boot blocks, which can be done in both Linux and Windows, although in Windows it often requires the installation media. Sometimes, this requires more than a little insight into how PCs boot though.
 

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I can't even download it to my external hard drive with all the issues on my CPU.

I think I need an anti-malware/adware that will run from a flash drive.
 

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That...doesn't make a lot of sense. If the disk is encrypted, how can you access it at all without the password? Is this some sort of proprietary thing?

The windows logon is linked to the encryption logon. But everytime the computer shuts down, the disk is scrambled. This accounts for most of the slowness I am sure. So I don't see how the bios could be entered without first shutting down the disk encryption. To shut down the encryption would require a different password which is only held by the original administrator of the machine, a company I used to work for several years ago. The machine was ceded to me; I am not using it illegally but it is not possible for me to get the engryption password because it was company policy to ensure that if ever the disk got into the wrong hands, there would be no posibility of company files being accessed.
So it looks like I have a choice to wipe and take a chance on a new op system or throw.
 

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I use Linux Lite to breath new life into old XP machines that people just want to get rid of. I may never need to buy another PC. I love Linux!

I have an older HP laptop with Vista. After taking it in for updates, Win 7 the man told me the computer was not going to be worth fixing. He seems like a good man, did not charge me anything. Then I took him this one, which has Windows 7 and he cleaned it and added memmory and a virus protection for one year all for $75.

I do not know much about Linux, tried a version of Red Hat and Mandrake back in 98, and do not remember much about it. Do you think Linux might work on the computer? I think it is 64 bits? Age would be around 2007?
 

Right Divider

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I have an older HP laptop with Vista. After taking it in for updates, Win 7 the man told me the computer was not going to be worth fixing. He seems like a good man, did not charge me anything. Then I took him this one, which has Windows 7 and he cleaned it and added memmory and a virus protection for one year all for $75.

I do not know much about Linux, tried a version of Red Hat and Mandrake back in 98, and do not remember much about it. Do you think Linux might work on the computer? I think it is 64 bits? Age would be around 2007?
What kind of CPU does it have? How much memory?

Look in System in the Control Panel
 

rexlunae

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The windows logon is linked to the encryption logon. But everytime the computer shuts down, the disk is scrambled. This accounts for most of the slowness I am sure.

I doubt that it's encrypting/decrypting the disk on boot. That would be extremely slow (perhaps taking hours to boot) and not very secure. It's not impossible, but it's not something that makes a lot of sense to me.

So I don't see how the bios could be entered without first shutting down the disk encryption.

Well, the BIOS itself is independent of any disk encryption. It's likely that it is involved in providing access to the encrypted volume for boot purposes.

To shut down the encryption would require a different password which is only held by the original administrator of the machine, a company I used to work for several years ago. The machine was ceded to me; I am not using it illegally but it is not possible for me to get the engryption password because it was company policy to ensure that if ever the disk got into the wrong hands, there would be no posibility of company files being accessed.
So it looks like I have a choice to wipe and take a chance on a new op system or throw.

I guess there is a way to do encryption using TPM which doesn't require a password, and instead stores the keys on a chip on the motherboard. I haven't messed with TPM, and generally (despite the name) don't trust it.

This is for Windows 7, but it should be partially applicable to some of XP:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/learn-more-about-bitlocker-drive-encryption
 

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I have an older HP laptop with Vista. After taking it in for updates, Win 7 the man told me the computer was not going to be worth fixing. He seems like a good man, did not charge me anything. Then I took him this one, which has Windows 7 and he cleaned it and added memmory and a virus protection for one year all for $75.

I do not know much about Linux, tried a version of Red Hat and Mandrake back in 98, and do not remember much about it. Do you think Linux might work on the computer? I think it is 64 bits? Age would be around 2007?
I am almost certain there is some version of Linux that will run and run well on your Vista laptop. The older the machine, the more likely you will need to select a slimmer (capable of fewer bells and whistles) version of linux. I like Linux Lite because I have found very few XP machines that can't run it, but if I had one that didn't work well with LL I could surely get it going with a Puppy Linux disto. My guess is that you will find just most modern distros to be more user friendly than the versions you tired in 98.
 

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All you really have to do is remove whatever partitions belong to the OS you're getting rid of and (potentially) reinstalling the boot blocks, which can be done in both Linux and Windows, although in Windows it often requires the installation media. Sometimes, this requires more than a little insight into how PCs boot though.

I only know how to do what I know how to do. Sometimes It is just easier to travel on the road I have gone down before.
 

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HP Pavilion Laptop Notebook DV6500
Windows Vista
2GB RAM
15.4 LCD
Intel Core Due 1.5 GHz T5250
 

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I am almost certain there is some version of Linux that will run and run well on your Vista laptop. The older the machine, the more likely you will need to select a slimmer (capable of fewer bells and whistles) version of linux. I like Linux Lite because I have found very few XP machines that can't run it, but if I had one that didn't work well with LL I could surely get it going with a Puppy Linux disto. My guess is that you will find just most modern distros to be more user friendly than the versions you tired in 98.

Where can I get the linux lite? can I get a disk? I know it can be downloaded, but I do not wish to try it because I have had trouble getting this one working after I used the newer 8.1 cheapo I do not like.
 
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