Trump Should Fire Mueller
- Thread starter patrick jane
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Our President knows exactly what he's doing. I was being sarcastic about the shambles comment. Obviously, it's a fine tuned machine, it's being tuned right now.
I suspect that the real "smoking gun" in all of this will be Trump real estate holdings and its role as major vehicle for Russian oligarchs to "launder" their money offshore!
Mueller now has the staff and the authority to follow the money trail, and as Trump, in his infinite wisdom, continues to severe his White House ties with the Republican Party, House members and those in the Senate who are up for election in 2018 are becoming increasingly willing to write their alliance with the President off as a "lost cause!"
Spicer and Priebus have a lot of friends in the House and Senate who are less than impressed as to how they were terminated by the White House!
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You been smokin' pot, user? What's that in your avatar, doper.
I'd say it's being tuned out, but call it like you see it.
No, I don't smoke.
It's a plant that God created. Lovely, isn't it.
I believe THAT is the main reason he NEEDS to shut down the investigation. The lesser reason is that he knows he will be historically shamed for colluding with the Russians for such unpatriotic actions.
Trump's problem is that Sessions has recused himself, and the Assistant AG has already said he wouldn't fire Mueller if ordered to do so.
So another Saturday Night Massacre in the making. Trump seems to realize that he can't let Mueller proceed, but at the same time, he's aware of what firing Mueller would do to him.
Rock and a hard place.
So another Saturday Night Massacre in the making. Trump seems to realize that he can't let Mueller proceed, but at the same time, he's aware of what firing Mueller would do to him.
Rock and a hard place.
You amaze me jg
I suspect that the real "smoking gun" in all of this will be Trump real estate holdings and its role as major vehicle for Russian oligarchs to "launder" their money offshore!
Mueller now has the staff and the authority to follow the money trail, and as Trump, in his infinite wisdom, continues to severe his White House ties with the Republican Party, House members and those in the Senate who are up for election in 2018 are becoming increasingly willing to write their alliance with the President off as a "lost cause!"
Spicer and Priebus have a lot of friends in the House and Senate who are less than impressed as to how they were terminated by the White House!
Yeah, let's compare Trump to Nixon, that always makes your Fake News spicier.
[h=2]Trump Should Fire Mueller[/h]
It's getting close.
It's getting close.
"The Donald" has just about exhausted all his usefulness for Republican politicians in Congress - McConnell/Ryan haven't introduced an infrastructure bill and there's no interest in repealing/replacing healthcare so they won't need Trump's signature!
It was always a "marriage of convenience" and the closer it gets to the 2018 Midterms, the more an erratic President with public approval ratings in the 30's becomes a liability rather than an asset!
Firing Mueller would give Congressional Republicans all the excuse they would need to cut this unpopular President adrift!
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I just read somewhere that Trump actually got 54% of the vote in 2016 and the Fake News lied to us again. That doesn't bode well for the dismal dems for 18 and 20.
That would mean that those 3 million "illegal" votes that he wanted investigated all went to Trump!
That would explain "The Donald's " decision to terminate his election commission, if the "illegal" votes went to him and not to Hillary, what is there to investigate?
From your link:
Department of Justice regulations stipulate that the attorney general — or, in this case, Rosenstein, as Attorney General Jeff Sessions has recused himself from matters relating to the investigation — "may remove a special counsel for misconduct, dereliction of duty, incapacity, conflict of interest, or for other good cause, including violation of departmental policies," and must "inform the special counsel in writing of the specific reason for his or her removal."
There is no evidence that Mueller has engaged in any inappropriate behavior that would warrant his removal. He was also already granted a waiver by the Justice Department to lead the probe despite a possible conflict of interest stemming from his law firm's representation of some of the people caught up in the investigation, including former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort and Jared Kushner, the president's son-in-law and senior adviser.
For Trump to order Mueller's firing with no good reason, then, "would be insane even by Trump-era standards," Wright said. And it's possible Rosenstein could refuse, meaning he would have to resign or Trump would have to fire him, which would create a situation eerily reminiscent of Nixon's "Saturday Night Massacre."
Did you even read it?
That would mean that those 3 million "illegal" votes that he wanted investigated all went to Trump!
That would explain "The Donald's " decision to terminate his election commission, if the "illegal" votes went to him and not to Hillary, what is there to investigate?
Well, the discovery that almost all the known illegal voting was for Trump, and the fact that one of his commission members had voted illegally, might have had something to do with it.
The fact that many states refused the commission's illegal order to divulge personal information about voters probably was a factor as well.
It's solely up to Trump. That was 6 months ago when Mueller was still shiny and clean. Not so anymore, despite your denial stage of grief. Try to keep up.
[h=3]More recent calls for removal
Mueller's Credibility Problem - WSJ[/h]
[h=3]Suspend Mueller's Politically Tainted Investigation | RealClearPolitics[/h]
The FBI has historically had a well-earned reputation for competence and integrity. The American people deserve no less when it comes to extraordinary investigations that touch the highest levels of government. Justice demands that these matters be pursued with the utmost honesty, probity and impartiality. However, evidence is emerging that special counsel and former FBI director Robert Mueller’s investigation of alleged Russian interference in the 2016 election, as well as the Hillary Clinton email investigations, have been fatally compromised by naked politics.
Mueller's Credibility Problem - WSJ[/h]
[h=3]Suspend Mueller's Politically Tainted Investigation | RealClearPolitics[/h]
The FBI has historically had a well-earned reputation for competence and integrity. The American people deserve no less when it comes to extraordinary investigations that touch the highest levels of government. Justice demands that these matters be pursued with the utmost honesty, probity and impartiality. However, evidence is emerging that special counsel and former FBI director Robert Mueller’s investigation of alleged Russian interference in the 2016 election, as well as the Hillary Clinton email investigations, have been fatally compromised by naked politics.
Jerry Shugart
Well-known member
The Mueller investigation should be disbanded this very second because of this:
Of course those on the left want nothing to do with this because they are the most lawless bunch that has ever existed in the USA!
"The fruit of the poisonous tree is a legal metaphor that was developed by the Courts of the United States of America. The meaning of this metaphor is that, evidence (fruit) is inadmissible if it has been obtained as a result of illegal search, arrest and coercive interrogation (i.e. the source of the evidence is poisonous). It is so because it is a violation of the Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution."
Of course those on the left want nothing to do with this because they are the most lawless bunch that has ever existed in the USA!
Barbarian points out that patrick's link says the opposite what he claims it says:
Did you even read it?
He would love to fire Mueller. But he's afraid of the firestorm that would follow. He'd have to fire who knows how many people in the Justice Department before finding one corrupt enough to do it.
A massive smear campaign seems to have bounced off him, with no effect whatever.
Did you even read it?
He would love to fire Mueller. But he's afraid of the firestorm that would follow. He'd have to fire who knows how many people in the Justice Department before finding one corrupt enough to do it.
A massive smear campaign seems to have bounced off him, with no effect whatever.