Trump, Over a Year Later

[The Barbarian]

Barbarian observes:
But he won. The KKK, the neo-nazis, the alt-right, had been marginalized from American politics for decades. And he brought them back in.

And they will always love him for that.

Oh right....we see those white hoods at every street corner. :chuckle:

Trump Selects a White Nationalist Leader as a Delegate in California
Meet William Johnson, head of the American Freedom Party.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/05/donald-trump-white-nationalist-afp-delegate-california/

Mostly they still hang out in the sewers or the Trump campaign. But he's moving them up.

Another Trump appointee resigns after racist comments come to light
Carl Higbie, a top official in the agency that oversees AmeriCorps, is the latest Trump nominee toppled.
https://www.vox.com/identities/2018...ments-trump-appointees-carl-higbie-americorps

Trump Defends White-Nationalist Protesters:
President Trump defended the white nationalists who protested in Charlottesville on Tuesday, saying they included “some very fine people,”
https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...s-some-very-fine-people-on-both-sides/537012/

KKK parades through Roxboro for ‘Trump victory’
ROXBORO — State troopers blocked intersections Saturday as the Ku Klux Klan made its way through the city’s downtown and major thoroughfare.

Windows rolled down, men and women shouted “White power!” and “Hail victory!” as the afternoon parade of roughly 30 cars drove by without an audience gathered.

After all, the Loyal White Knights had initially announced its “Trump victory parade” would occur Saturday morning in Pelham, a county over and nearly 40 miles away, but they didn’t show up in Caswell County.

The Times-News went to the residence of the founders of the Loyal White Knights to find out why no one had showed. The publication later learned that the parade was being held in Roxboro.
http://www.thetimesnews.com/news/20161203/kkk-parades-through-roxboro-for-trump-victory

David Duke: Voting against Trump is 'treason to your heritage'

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/david-duke-trump-219777

 

[glorydaz]

Barbarian observes:
But he won. The KKK, the neo-nazis, the alt-right, had been marginalized from American politics for decades. And he brought them back in.

Spoiler

And they will always love him for that.



Trump Selects a White Nationalist Leader as a Delegate in California
Meet William Johnson, head of the American Freedom Party.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/05/donald-trump-white-nationalist-afp-delegate-california/

Mostly they still hang out in the sewers or the Trump campaign. But he's moving them up.

Another Trump appointee resigns after racist comments come to light
Carl Higbie, a top official in the agency that oversees AmeriCorps, is the latest Trump nominee toppled.
https://www.vox.com/identities/2018...ments-trump-appointees-carl-higbie-americorps

Trump Defends White-Nationalist Protesters:
President Trump defended the white nationalists who protested in Charlottesville on Tuesday, saying they included “some very fine people,”
https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...s-some-very-fine-people-on-both-sides/537012/

KKK parades through Roxboro for ‘Trump victory’
ROXBORO — State troopers blocked intersections Saturday as the Ku Klux Klan made its way through the city’s downtown and major thoroughfare.

Windows rolled down, men and women shouted “White power!” and “Hail victory!” as the afternoon parade of roughly 30 cars drove by without an audience gathered.

After all, the Loyal White Knights had initially announced its “Trump victory parade” would occur Saturday morning in Pelham, a county over and nearly 40 miles away, but they didn’t show up in Caswell County.

The Times-News went to the residence of the founders of the Loyal White Knights to find out why no one had showed. The publication later learned that the parade was being held in Roxboro.
http://www.thetimesnews.com/news/20161203/kkk-parades-through-roxboro-for-trump-victory

David Duke: Voting against Trump is 'treason to your heritage'

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/david-duke-trump-219777

All left wing propaganda... conjecture and lies :blabla:

 

[musterion]

On the other hand.

This was posted somewhere.

I don't know how much of it is accurate.

Wheatietoo and I spent hours yesterday providing links, researching the laws, the 1974 law and statutes…. Do you know why the Omnibus is not going to get any notice…Here it is..

It’s not an official ‘Federal Budget’. It’s an Omnibus bill…not a Budget…He outsmarted them again…Congress basically screwed themselves by not passing a Budget…

Per the Constitution…the President must adhere to a Budget set forth by Congress and direct the expenditures as provided therein.

This is another one of those big Porkulus Bills, like they gave Obama for 8 years. This is not a Budget..

An Omnibus Spending Bill may have some ‘instructions’ as to how the money will be spent…but Obama ignored them.

He spent the money, or didn’t spend it, however he wanted to.

And Congress didn’t do a thing about it! Because they couldn’t..

And, it is only for 6 months..

I think our President observed how this happened, year after year.

He is bound to realize that those ‘appropriations’ for different things in these Omnibus bills…are merely ‘suggestions’.

So like Obama, Pres Trump can spend this money on whatever he wants to.

Or…not spend it.

Planned Parenthood?

What if our President decided to tell the Treas Dept to ‘slow-walk’ that money to Planned Parenthood…until the Senate gets off their *** and confirms his appointees?

Sanctuary Cities?

What if our President decided to ‘slow-walk’ that money too…until those Sanctuary Cities assist ICE in rounding up criminal illegal aliens?

Splodey heads? From the Dems and the Enemedia?

Why yes.

There would be a colorful display of splodey heads.

But what could they do about it.

Hah.

Our President could just say…’What! Congress should’ve passed a Budget.’

done finished…research was done…and it is so very humorous actually….our VSG..just said just give me money for the military and the wall…put anything else you want in it…and those goofballs did.

In this case, as per above….he doesn’t have to spend a dime….because it is not a budget…and even if it was…researched….he could still spend as he please…

Congress appropriates….up to the President to spend it…or not….as he pleases..

If anyone disagrees, I can go back and get the links and evidence, but if you just read yesterdays political thread…Wheatietoo and I laid it all out for all…Wheatietoo did most of the work and put together the consolidated update as per above….

Again, that is why Obama never had a Budget in his Presidency…Congress did continual Omibus’s and he just took the money….for 8 years…and no one seems to know where it went…

I've read that the above is not true because a 1974 law requires the POTUS to spend money where it's appropriated and not withhold it.

The response to that was: yes, that's true OF ACTUAL BUDGETS, which this is not. Wasn't under Obama, isn't now under Trump.

I guess we'll have to wait and see which is correct.

If the above IS correct...they just handed Trump everything he asked for on a golden platter, along with the permission to not spend whatever he doesn't want to spend. Like Obama.

Splodey heads indeed.

 

[glorydaz]

On the other hand.

This was posted somewhere.

I don't know how much of it is accurate.



I've read that the above is not true because a 1974 law requires the POTUS to spend money where it's appropriated and not withhold it.

The response to that was: yes, that's true OF ACTUAL BUDGETS, which this is not. Wasn't under Obama, isn't now under Trump.

I guess we'll have to wait and see which is correct.

If the above IS correct...they just handed Trump everything he asked for on a golden platter, along with the permission to not spend whatever he doesn't want to spend. Like Obama. Splodey heads indeed.

That would be a hoot, wouldn't it?

 

[musterion]

It would be the hoot to end all hoots.

Trump funds the wall and the military, does not fund Planned Parenthood or sanctuary cities or any other pork that got shoved in the package.

There would be literal on-air suicides.

If the Republicans were in on it, and that's made known before the elections, another landslide this year with Trump back in 2020.

 

[jgarden]

My "fearmongering" was based on my own fears for our men and women in uniform. Stuff a sock in it, vile "garden".

As usual, long on inflammatory rhetoric - as if insults were a substitute for the facts!

Conservatives just don't get it - they make these absurd statements in a forum and then become indignant when they're challenged, because they're either unable or unwilling to support them with the facts!

Even during Obama's last year in office the Military accounted for 53% of federal spending while for healthcare and education accounted for only 6% each!

 

[glorydaz]

It would be the hoot to end all hoots.

Trump funds the wall and the military, does not fund Planned Parenthood or sanctuary cities or any other pork that got shoved in the package.

There would be literal on-air suicides.

If the Republicans were in on it, and that's made known before the elections, another landslide this year with Trump back in 2020.

I've been reading up on those Omnibus spending bills....discretionary spending that has a history of not getting spent on what they want. I'm thinking there is a lot to that article you posted. What they need to do is end the filibuster rule before the dems get in, and do it to their own advantage.

 

[glorydaz]

My "fearmongering" was based on my own fears for our men and women in uniform. Stuff a sock in it, vile "garden".

As usual, long on inflammatory rhetoric - as if insults were a substitute for the facts!

And you wonder why your fact gathering is called into dispute? :rotfl:

 

[The Barbarian]

All left wing propaganda... conjecture and lies

It's all documented news stories. No point denying it.

 

[The Barbarian]

As usual, long on inflammatory rhetoric - as if insults were a substitute for the facts!

Conservatives just don't get it - they make these absurd statements in a forum and then become indignant when they're challenged, because they're either unable or unwilling to support them with the facts!

Even during Obama's last year in office the Military accounted for 53% of federal spending while for healthcare and education accounted for only 6% each!

Now, you're confusing them with facts, again.

 

[Jonahdog]

Well, It's probably been a year since I've been on TOL. Last I remember, I was arguing with Trump supporters who just knew he would be making America great again.

So now that he's been president for well over a year,

He has passed the largest spending bill in history, approved $500 Million for Planned Parenthood, banned bump stocks, and tweeted leftist gun control talking points.

He has NOT repealed Obamacare, started building the wall, "locked her up" or defunded Planned Parenthood.

Let's hear those excuses.

The check from Mexico must still be in the mail.

 

[Jonahdog]

All left wing propaganda... conjecture and lies :blabla:

Unless of course it was on Fox, then it is gospel

 

[musterion]

Unless of course it was on Fox, then it is gospel

At least a few of us here do not trust and do not watch Fox.

 

[The Barbarian]

Well, It's probably been a year since I've been on TOL. Last I remember, I was arguing with Trump supporters who just knew he would be making America great again.

So now that he's been president for well over a year,

He has passed the largest spending bill in history, approved $500 Million for Planned Parenthood, banned bump stocks, and tweeted leftist gun control talking points.

He has NOT repealed Obamacare, started building the wall, "locked her up" or defunded Planned Parenthood.

Let's hear those excuses.

He's pretending to lose all those fights so he can secretly win. See, he's a very stable genius, and has everyone fooled.

Well, he has some people fooled, doesn't he?:chuckle:

 

[Daniel1769]

He's pretending to lose all those fights so he can secretly win. See, he's a very stable genius, and has everyone fooled.

Well, he has some people fooled, doesn't he?:chuckle:

He's not losing fights. He's just not trying because he never planned to defund Planned Parenthood, Repeal Obamacare, build the wall, lock her up, or anything else that he said. He doesn't have to because every time he tweets gun control talking points, gives money to Planned Parenthood, or calls for more regulation of the market, his supporters either day he actually is playing 790D chess and is "winning" or that somehow socialism will work because Trump said so.

 

[The Barbarian]

He's not losing fights. He's just not trying because he never planned to defund Planned Parenthood, Repeal Obamacare, build the wall, lock her up, or anything else that he said. He doesn't have to because every time he tweets gun control talking points, gives money to Planned Parenthood, or calls for more regulation of the market, his supporters either day he actually is playing 790D chess and is "winning" or that somehow socialism will work because Trump said so.

I don't think anyone with any sense believes that Trump has given up on his socialistic ideas.