Thank you. I try to be as straightforward as I can be.
I'll leave a response on that thread. But I suspect that I'm likely going to disappoint you.
Transsexual Warns Jenner: The Hangover is Coming
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Thank you. I try to be as straightforward as I can be.
I'll leave a response on that thread. But I suspect that I'm likely going to disappoint you.
The current understanding within the field is that HRT and SRS can help, which is why those are both often indicated. No ethical psychologist could ever suggest using them if they suspected that they would do more harm than good.
Those are your hobby horses to ride, and I would hope that you would respect the freedom of conscience of others enough that you don't expect them to ride with you.
musterion
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Nope. That does not fall under freedom of conscience. God says men dressing as women, and vice versa, is sin. That's what Jenner is doing. Granted, he's able to accessories aspects of his flesh thanks to modern surgical techniques, but he's still just a sick man playing dress-up as if he's a woman. And people like you are saying, "It's okay." It isn't. Never has been, never will be.
So, you only believe in freedom of conscious as long as it is convenient to argue it, but you don't allow it to others?
I think you should try screaming this into your pillow at night. It might have more impact on reality.
musterion
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The word is conscience, not conscious.
I do not believe in freedom of conscience in matters where God has already declared something to be sin, and that thing is being promoted as normality. HOWEVER, I am not a theocrat who believes they should be legally punished for it. I do believe they should be strenuously and publicly opposed, as you do with those you disagree with. That's freedom of speech, thought and conscience at work, which you just affirmed on the other thread.
Yes, it is. Thank you for being my spell-checker.
And I don't believe in your god.
HOWEVER, I am not a theocrat who believes they should be legally punished for it. I do believe they should be strenuously and publicly opposed, as you do with those you disagree with. That's freedom of speech, thought and conscience at work, which you just affirmed on the other thread.
By all means, speak as strenuously as you can. I just think it's going to be a disappointment for you.
musterion
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I didn't ask you to. You asked about me, I told you.
On that we agree. But disappointment really isn't the right word because I'm fully expecting it to happen.
yes, the problem is psychological.
shagster01
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Well then, should we celebrate courage when people just play it safe instead?
That would be celebrating "Play it safeness".
It is a matter of what strikes one as courageous is it not?
When a young person who has fought for his/her country attaches a prosthetic limb to replace one blown off by the enemy and then faces daily life I call that courageous.
shagster01
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That is courageous. So is a child speaking in front of a large crowd. It's a very broad word, isn't it?