Transgressor from the womb

Nanja

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A person can be innocent of committing a crime and still be evil. And to say that there's a age of innocence is not in the scripture, you just made that up! It's a figment of your imagination!

Exactly Brother !

Ps. 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.
 

marke

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Exactly Brother !

Ps. 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.
God hates all workers of iniquity, according to Psalm 7.

Psalm 5:5
The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.

Does that mean God hates sinners as soon as they are born before they can even walk? I don't believe so. What do you believe?
 

Nanja

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God hates all workers of iniquity, according to Psalm 7.

Psalm 5:5
The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.

Does that mean God hates sinners as soon as they are born before they can even walk? I don't believe so. What do you believe?

Age doesn't matter.

If any are hated by God they're in a state of separation from Him and His Love.

So the workers of iniquity, no matter what their age, are hated by God Ps. 5:5
 

marke

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Age doesn't matter.

If any are hated by God they're in a state of separation from Him and His Love.

So the workers of iniquity, no matter what their age, are hated by God Ps. 5:5
If God hates babies as soon as they are born, why does He hate them? Because they are sinners? Because He gets pleasure from hating them? Because that is why He made them sinners, so He could hate them?

No, God does not hate babies. They are not sinless, but they are innocent and God does not hate the innocent.
 

OZOS

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Yes, anyone God sent to hell it was for His Pleasure, any day

"The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not willing for any to perish, but for all to come to repentance."

Obviously, those who are saved do not perish, so the only ones who do perish are those that God does not want to perish. Thus, your statement that God takes pleasure when any man perishes, is false. And that makes you a false teacher.
 

OZOS

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You dot believe God is pleased with His Own Justice against sin ?
"Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise Him"

God's justice against sin was propitiated by the shed blood of Jesus on the cross for all men.

"For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all"

"...for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself."

"But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God"

God is well pleased with the once for all sacrifice for sins on the cross.

"For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe."
 

Nanja

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If God hates babies as soon as they are born, why does He hate them? Because they are sinners? Because He gets pleasure from hating them? Because that is why He made them sinners, so He could hate them?

No, God does not hate babies. They are not sinless, but they are innocent and God does not hate the innocent.

Is. 58:3-4
3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.
4 Their poison is like the poison of a serpent: they are like the deaf adder that stoppeth her ear;
 

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Huh ? What in the world you talking about ?

You agreed, in post #29, that God was not as pleased before He sent people to hell as He was after.

Thus, His pleasure increased.

No?
 

marke

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Is. 58:3-4
3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.
4 Their poison is like the poison of a serpent: they are like the deaf adder that stoppeth her ear;
Of course everyone is born a sinner by God's design, but He does not hate them for being born sinners. It is not babies' faults for being born sinners. Calvinists may not understand that but Christians who understand God and the Bible do.
 

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I dont know what you talking about sir.

Sure you do.

You said:

Yes, anyone God sent to hell it was for His Pleasure, any day

Then I said:

So God is pleased by sending people to hell?

Then you said:

Of course, Its His Justice. You dot believe God is pleased with His Own Justice against sin ?

Then I said:

So God is pleased by sending people to hell?

In other words:

So God wasn't as pleased before He sent them to Hell, as He was after He sends them to Hell?
 
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