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Top 10 Reasons the Universe is Electric (Electric Universe Theory)

Clete

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Lately, I've mentioned the Electric Universe Theory in several of my posts and I've been thinking about starting a thread to introduce the theory to more people and to discuss the topic in more detail but haven't been able to decide how best to start. Then the folks over at The Thunderbolts Project website provided the perfect starting point for my new thread. They regularly publish YouTube videos on a wide variety of topics related to the Electric Universe Theory (EUT or just EU for short) and they've begun a series of ten videos that each present what they consider to be the best points in favor of accepting the EU. So far, they've put out the first two of these ten videos and I wanted to present them here for everyone's consideration.

As for me, while I'm not apposed in general to the gist of the EUT, I cannot be considered a full-blown proponent of the theory. I can readily accept the notion that electromagnetic forces play a much bigger role than the standard model would suggest or even permit and I have long understood that mainstream science has been politicized and corrupted into something that cannot be rightly considered scientific and that what is left of the scientific community is entrenched into a mindset that puts as much or more emphasis on their mathematical models as they do onto actual observational, experimental science. Even their experiments are formulated on the basis of fundamentally mathematical concepts of the way the universe works and are analyzed on that same basis. They are so up past their noses in mathematics that they cannot see the circularity of their cosmological arguments and are blind to falsifying observational data. I have no doubt that before this series of videos is complete, you'll hear quite a lot about these issues.

The parts of the EUT that I can't swallow have to do with what some of their main people have to say about the positions of the planets and how they've changed dramatically in the last several thousand years and that this explains ancient belief systems, etc. It all starts to sound a lot like the idiotic television show called "Ancient Aliens". For this reason, as well as the fact that I've had very little exposure to the EUT other than YouTube videos, I can't personally endorse the theory. I do however think that large portions of it are worth serious consideration.

Now, what I'd like is some serious discussion on the topic. Meaning that I invite real criticism, debate and substantive discussion of both the pros and cons of the theory. I'm not at all interested in ridicule and name-calling, although I know that some of you won't be capable of resisting such behavior. You should know that the people behind this theory are NOT Christians and the EU is NOT some sort of alternative cosmology designed to agree with a biblical worldview. In fact, the "insert a miracle here" mentality is one of Walt Thornhill's biggest complaints about the Standard Model and the Big Bang Theory.

Finally, if you want to participate in the thread, you gotta actually watch the videos. It's going to be really easy to tell whether you've watched them or not so please don't waste everyone's time by trying to get away with having not watched them. If you want to post another video in either support of or opposition to the EUT then please write a short synopsis of the video just to give the gist of the argument presented. Just a sentence or two to let everyone know that you've watched the video and that it's pertinent to the discussion.

I'll post the first two videos in two separate posts to as to make them easier to respond to individually.

Clete

P.S. I've decided to also put a link to each video at the bottom of this post so that they are all easy to find...

Top 10 Reasons the Universe is Electric: #1 Cosmic Magnetic Fields (Post#2)

"This episode marks the beginning of a special 10-part series, "Top 10 Reasons the Universe is Electric." In this first chapter, we explore the significance of the astrophysical enigma of pervasive cosmic magnetic fields. Basic physics classes teach that electric currents produce magnetic fields. But why is this law of physics almost nowhere evident in the standard astrophysical literature? Plasma physics and electrical engineering hold the key to explaining the origins of powerful magnetic fields throughout the cosmos."​

Top 10 Reasons the Universe is Electric: #2 Filaments in Space (Post#3)

"Electric currents flowing through space plasmas can be recognized through their distinct filamentary shape. With remarkable advances in space telescopes, we see today in unprecedented detail filamentary structures that pervade the visible universe at all scales. The appearances of these unique structures have proved puzzling far more often than not to astronomers. In this episode, we explore why filamentation throughout the cosmos is just one of ten reasons why the Universe is electric."​

Top 10 Reasons the Universe is Electric: #3 Cosmic Jets (Post #17)

"It is a mystery that space science must confront: What force is capable of producing high-energy jets spanning not millions of miles, but many light-years across the cosmos? What confines the jets to narrow streams across cosmic distances, and what prevents the so-called streams of gas from dispersing in the “vacuum” of space? We explore this question and more in part three of our ongoing video series, "Top Ten Reasons the Universe is Electric.""​

Top 10 Reasons the Universe is Electric: #4 Light Bulbs in Space (Post #209)

In Number 4 of our ongoing series, "The Top Ten Reasons the Universe is Electric," we explore an ongoing astrophysical enigma -- the Fermi Bubbles, giant gamma ray structures which scientists have dubbed "incandescent bulbs screwed into the center of the galaxy." In this episode, we explore why such a feature is both explicable and predictable in the Electric Universe.​


Top 10 Reasons the Universe is Electric #5: Pulsars (Post 231)

One of the strangest hypothetical astrophysical objects is called a neutron star. Scientists tell us that the material leftover from a supernova explosion of a massive star collapses gravitationally, forming an incredibly small yet massively dense star mostly composed of tightly packed neutrons. A rotating neutron star is said to emit narrow beams of radiation, called pulsars. But the theoretical and evidential objections to this hypothesis are numerous. In this episode we explore the promising theoretical alternatives in the disciplines of plasma physics and electrical engineering.​

Top 10 Reasons the Universe is Electric #6: Charged Planets (Inner Solar System) (Post 244)

In the first five installments of this series, we outlined some of the most compelling evidence that the role of electromagnetism throughout the cosmos is vastly more significant than modern space science has ever entertained. So far, we have explored this question through an examination of the highest energy electromagnetic phenomena at the vastest scales throughout the cosmos. We now move our attention to our own celestial neighborhood and the dynamic interactions between the Sun and all of the bodies which move within its electrical domain. In this episode, we explore why planetary electrical discharge — beginning with planets in the inner solar system — are the sixth of ten reasons why the universe is electric.​

Top 10 Reasons the Universe is Electric #7: Charged Planets (Outer Solar System) (Post 246)

In this series, we have presented evidence for a dramatically new way of viewing all celestial bodies. In an Electric Universe, nowhere can one find an “island in space.” Across vast cosmic distances, electric currents flow through the conductive medium of plasma, electromagnetically pinching gas and dust to form stars and planets. In our last episode, we focused on the electrical circuitry in our own celestial neighborhood in the inner solar system, connecting the Sun to all the planets, including the Earth. Today, we shift our focus to the outer solar system, where the tremendous electrified environments of the gas giants Saturn and Jupiter are the 7th of 10 reasons why the Universe is Electric.​

Top 10 Reasons the Universe is Electric #8: Electrical Planetary Scarring (Post 252)

We have created this special top-ten series to highlight the most compelling evidence for the dominant role of electromagnetism at all scales throughout the cosmos. The experimentally proven ability of high energy electrical discharges to produce craters and countless other planetary features offers an entirely new perspective on planetary science and the solar system’s history. In this episode, we explore why the high-energy electrical scarring of bodies in our solar system is the eighth of ten reasons why the Universe is Electric.​
 
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Here's video #1: Cosmic Magnetic Fields...


Transcript:

00:07
Welcome to Space News from the Electric Universe,
00:10
brought to you by The Thunderbolts Project™
00:12
at Thunderbolts.info
00:16
For the last 5 years on this series we have presented a vast library of evidence
00:21
for the role of electromagnetism throughout the cosmos.
00:25
Though institutional science still insists that gravity is king,
00:29
gravity-centric cosmology has faced an ever-growing crisis
00:33
in light of countless baffling discoveries.
00:36
With no explanation for the origins of cosmic magnetic fields,
00:40
cosmologists have little left but to resort to random collisions,
00:44
explosions and gravitational collapse.
00:48
But if gravity is not king, what is the best evidence
00:52
for the dominant role of electromagnetism in the astrophysical phenomena?
00:56
In commemoration of the 5 year anniversary of this series,
01:00
we begin our summation of arguably the top 10 points of evidence
01:04
which most clearly point to an electric universe.
01:07
Cosmic magnetic fields
01:10
It's a fact known to every high school physics student,
01:13
electric currents produce magnetic fields.
01:16
But this law of physics is almost nowhere evident
01:19
in the standard Astrophysical literature.
01:22
In fact with ever finer technological data
01:24
the influence of pervasive powerful magnetic fields at all scales throughout the cosmos
01:30
has been one of the great surprises of the Space Age.
01:33
Although astronomers have had no choice
01:35
but to acknowledge the existence of magnetic fields in space,
01:38
it's important to keep an historical context
01:41
and remember the predictions of the standard gravity centric cosmology.
01:45
Consider the following excerpt from the early online NASA feature
01:49
Dr. Magneto's questions and answers,
01:52
archived in the official NASA website.
01:55
On the question, do magnetic fields exist throughout space,
01:58
the answer reads as follows:
02:01
"On the cosmological scale, there is no data to suggest that magnetic fields are present.
02:06
They certainly are not important in the dynamics of the universe
02:10
for any reasonable range of field strengths consistent with present observational constraints."
02:16
But fast-forward to 2011
02:18
and the undeniable conundrum is acknowledged in the Universe Today article.
02:22
It states,
02:24
"The mention of cosmic-scale magnetic fields is still likely to be met
02:27
with an uncomfortable silence in some astronomical circles --
02:31
and after a bit of foot- shuffling and throat clearing,
02:33
the discussion will be moved on to safer topics.
02:36
But look, they're out there.
02:38
They probably do play a role in galaxy evolution, if not galaxy formation --
02:43
and are certainly a feature of the interstellar medium and the intergalactic medium."
02:48
But what causes these magnetic fields
02:51
which astronomers and astrophysicists had long believed to be
02:54
"not important"?
02:56
To answer this question, let us consider some of the scientific discoveries
03:00
which clearly affirm the electrical interpretation of cosmic scale magnetic fields.
03:06
A great shock for scientists came in 2008
03:09
with the detection of an astonishingly powerful magnetic field in a so-called young galaxy.
03:15
A Phys.org report on the discovery reads,
03:18
"Astronomers have made the first direct measurement of the magnetic field in a young distant galaxy,
03:23
and the result is a big surprise.
03:26
Looking at a faraway proto galaxy seen as it was 6.5 billion years ago,
03:31
the scientists measured a magnetic field at least 10 times stronger than that of our own Milky Way.
03:37
They had expected just the opposite."
03:39
And of course, ever finer data across the entire electromagnetic spectrum
03:44
only deepens the so-called mysteries.
03:46
In 2014, a comprehensive study was published on the, so called, supermassive black holes
03:52
that are believed to exist at the centers of galaxies.
03:56
Scientists made the unexpected discovery that powerful magnetic fields
04:00
play a significant role in the dynamics of the systems.
04:03
A Phys.org report on the study states,
04:06
"The magnetic field strength was confirmed by evidence from jets of gas
04:10
that shoot away from supermassive black holes.
04:13
Formed by magnetic fields, these jets produce a radio emission...
04:18
the new results mean theorists must re-evaluate their understanding of black hole behavior."
04:23
A contributor to the research stated,
04:26
"The magnetic fields are strong enough to dramatically alter how gas falls into black holes
04:31
and how gas produces outflows that we do observe,
04:34
much stronger than what has usually been assumed...
04:37
We need to go back and look at our models once again."
04:40
However, as we will explain as we continue with this list,
04:44
the standard assumptions about the sources of cosmic jets
04:47
are also severely challenged by science discovery.
04:51
The real problem astronomers and astrophysicists face
04:54
is succinctly summarized in a Scholarpedia page on the origins of galactic magnetic fields.
05:00
It states,
05:01
"The origin of the first magnetic fields of the Universe is still a mystery...
05:05
It calls for a mechanism to sustain and organize the magnetic field."
05:10
At a smaller scale in our own celestial neighborhood,
05:13
scientists call on mysterious internal dynamos
05:16
to explain the magnetic fields of planets and the Sun.
05:20
Dynamos are also now proposed inside of galaxies
05:23
to explain the galactic magnetic fields.
05:26
But plasma cosmologists have shown theoretically and experimentally
05:30
that the magnetic fields in galaxies are due to electric currents
05:33
flowing into the centers along the spiral arms of the galaxies.
05:37
It's proposed that, when the current reaches the center of the galaxy,
05:41
it's twisted into an object called a plasmoid
05:44
where all of the electromagnetic energy is stored
05:47
until the plasmoid becomes unstable
05:49
and ejects matter in jets along the galaxy axis as observed in deep space.
05:55
Many of these concepts were published in understandable terms
05:58
in the book, The Big Bang Never Happened.
06:01
In plasma physics,
06:02
the plasmoid is the most concentrated form of electromagnetic energy known.
06:07
As proven experimentally, a plasmoid can store the energy of a room full of capacitors,
06:12
in its tiny doughnut shaped form only a few millimeters across.
06:17
To contain that energy, that plasmoid has an intense magnetic field,
06:21
self generated by electric currents twisting themselves together.
06:25
In our own solar system the electric universe predicts and explains
06:29
many of the ongoing surprises for scientists investigating planetary magnetic fields.
06:35
In the last year, scientists reporting the findings of two major NASA missions
06:40
to the gas giants, Jupiter and Saturn respectively,
06:42
have shattered all assumptions about the powerful magnetic fields
06:46
and those planets' highly electrified environments.
06:49
The predictions of the theory that an internal dynamo deep inside of Jupiter
06:53
produces the planet's magnetic field, have been falsified by NASA's Juno mission.
06:58
Instead, the magnetic field is both much more powerful and
07:02
"irregular than scientists had ever imagined."
07:05
If such an invisible dynamo does exist then, as Juno scientists admit,
07:10
it would have to be much closer to the planet's surface than theory can explain.
07:15
As Juno principal investigator Scott Bolton stated,
07:18
"I didn't expect all the theories to be wrong,
07:21
but there's motion going on in the planet we did not anticipate."
07:25
Saturn's magnetic field has proved equally perplexing to scientists on the Cassini mission.
07:30
A major shock was the discovery that the planet's magnetic field
07:34
appears to have no discernable tilt.
07:37
As reported by Imperial College London,
07:40
"Based on data collected by Cassini's magnetometer instrument,
07:44
Saturn's magnetic field appears to be surprisingly well aligned with the planet's rotation axis.
07:50
Previously, mission scientists thought that 0.06 degrees
07:54
would be the lower limit of tilt that could generate the observed magnetic field.
07:58
However, the results show the tilt may be much less than this.
08:02
Scientists currently think that planetary magnetic fields
08:06
require some degree of tilt in order to sustain currents
08:09
flowing through the liquid metal deep inside the planets.
08:13
With no tilt, the currents would eventually subside and the field would disappear."
08:18
The leader of Cassini's magnetometer, professor Michele Dougherty, said of the discovery,
08:23
"The tilt seems to be much smaller than we had previously estimated
08:27
and quite challenging to explain."
08:29
So if, like Jupiter, Saturn's magnetic field is not generated by an internal dynamo,
08:35
what causes and maintains the magnetic fields?
08:38
In the Electric Universe, both gas giants are electrically charged bodies
08:43
that are part of the larger electrical circuits connecting them to the Sun.
08:47
In fact, in 2016, scientists reported their first observation
08:52
of so-called magnetic ropes traversing the vast distance between the Sun and Saturn
08:57
and connecting the two bodies.
08:59
The lead author of a paper in the Geophysical Research Letters says of the finding,
09:04
"Contrary to previous ideas about Saturn's magnetosphere
09:08
being unlike its terrestrial counterpart,
09:10
these findings reveal that Saturn at times behaves and interacts with the Sun
09:15
in much the same way as Earth."
09:17
But how can the fluid dynamics the NASA envisions explain,
09:20
"rope-like structures that twist and change dynamically"
09:24
and extend to nearly 900 million miles from the Sun to Saturn?
09:29
The phrase "magnetic ropes" is used to describe twisted filamentary pathways
09:34
traversed by charged particles.
09:37
But, to electrical engineers, such terminology reveals the inappropriateness
09:41
of concepts that came to dominate astronomy and astrophysics in the 20th century.
09:46
As Professor Donald Scott, author of the Electric Sky, states;
09:50
"Ropes, of course, have beginnings and ends. Magnetic fields do not...
09:55
(T)his use of language from NASA fails to explain anything,
09:59
and is conceptually wrong as well as misleading."
10:02
The "ropes" to which the investigators refer
10:06
are commonly described in plasma science as electrical Birkeland Currents.
10:10
The rope-like structure is not merely a curiosity.
10:14
It's the structure, taken by current flow,
10:16
due to the long-range attraction and short-range repulsion between current filaments.
10:21
The "twisted magnetic fields" are simply the signature of the electric current flow.
10:27
In plasma cosmology these entwined plasma filaments act as transmission lines
10:32
carrying "field aligned currents"
10:35
across interplanetary and interstellar space.
10:38
In recent years, professor Donald Scott has published his own mathematical modeling
10:43
of the structure of a Birkeland Current
10:45
which can be visually identified as counter rotating cylinders.
10:49
Critically, this counter rotation is clearly seen
10:53
at the north poles of both Saturn and Jupiter.
10:56
In our next episode, the question of the true source of cosmic magnetic fields
11:01
will be further explored as we investigate the pervasiveness
11:05
of filamentary structures throughout the universe:
11:08
the second of our ten reasons why the universe is electric.
11:14
For continuous updates on Space News from the Electric Universe,
11:18
stay tuned to
11:19
Thunderbolts.info
 
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And video #2: Filaments in Space


These are the only two so far released. I'll post more as they come out.

Transcript:

00:07
Welcome to Space News from the Electric Universe,
00:10
brought to you by The Thunderbolts Project™
00:12
at Thunderbolts.info
00:16
What fills the vast space in the unimaginable distances
00:20
separating celestial objects in the cosmos?
00:24
Space is indeed a big place but it's not a perfect void or vacuum.
00:29
Today this fact is acknowledged even by the NASA space agency
00:33
which states in an official report from 2014,
00:37
"Space may appear empty -- a soundless vacuum, but it's not an absolute void.
00:43
It flows with electric activity that is not visible to our eyes."
00:48
The movement of electrically charged particles requires a medium
00:52
and that medium in space is plasma
00:54
or the so called 4th state of matter.
00:57
Plasma is commonly referred to as a gas
01:00
whose constituent atoms have been split into electrons and ions
01:04
which move independently of each other.
01:06
Well over 99% of the visible universe is composed of plasma
01:11
including the Earth's ionosphere,
01:13
the Sun and All Stars
01:15
and nearly all of the interplanetary, interstellar and intergalactic medium.
01:21
Electric currents flowing through plasma
01:23
can be recognized through their distinct filamentary shape
01:27
as seen in the familiar novelty plasma ball.
01:30
With extraordinary advances in space telescopes
01:33
we see today, in unprecedented detail, filamentary structures
01:37
that pervade the visible universe at all scales.
01:40
The appearances of these distinct structures have proved puzzling to astronomers
01:45
far more often than not
01:46
as they defy the expected form and behaviors of hot gas in a vacuum.
01:51
In part two of this 10 part presentation
01:55
we explore why filamentation throughout the cosmos is just one of 10 reasons
02:00
why the universe is electric.
02:02
Filaments in Space
02:04
Let us begin by considering the examples of filaments that we see locally
02:08
associated with celestial bodies in our own solar system.
02:12
The most dramatic displays can surely be seen on our Sun.
02:16
Of course we see huge plasma filaments,
02:19
sometimes a million kilometers or longer,
02:21
that occasionally erupt or explode off of the Sun's surface.
02:25
But one of countless unresolved problems in solar physics
02:29
is the observation of giant snake-like filaments
02:32
reaching from the surface of the Sun to the dark cores of sunspots.
02:37
For decades, scientists following the standard solar model
02:41
have viewed the Sun spot penumbra filaments as "convection cells"
02:45
or columns of hot gases transporting heat from the Sun's interior to its surface.
02:51
But as physicist Wal Thornhill has observed,
02:54
the filaments bear no resemblance to any known form of convection in a hot gas.
02:59
Indeed, in our first ever Space News episode,
03:02
we reported on the discovery of anomalously weak solar convection
03:07
by scientists measuring the Sun's internal plasma motions.
03:10
The Electric Universe theory proposes that the Sun
03:14
is not powered by an internal thermonuclear reaction
03:17
but rather it receives its electrical energy from interstellar space
03:22
in which case the absence of convection is to be expected.
03:25
The complex magnetic fields associated with the penumbra filaments
03:29
are acknowledged by solar physicists.
03:32
As seen in the text of the Astronomy Picture of the Day image seen on your screen,
03:37
"Here magnetic field lines can be clearly followed outward from the sunspot to distant regions."
03:43
A clear defiance of the expected behaviors of so-called convection cells.
03:48
In a 2002 article on his website;
03:51
Thornhill wrote on the mysterious nature of sunspots,
03:54
"It is crucially important to understand a sunspot
03:57
because it is the only place on the Sun that gives a glimpse below the bright photosphere.
04:02
And what do we see?
04:04
It is cooler down there by thousands of degrees!
04:08
That is not expected at all if the Sun is trying to rid itself of heat.
04:13
The sunspot center should be much hotter and brighter than its surroundings."
04:18
In the Electric Universe, the penumbral filaments are electrical discharges in plasma
04:23
in the characteristic form of long thin rope-like structures.
04:28
If the filaments are "convecting gas"
04:32
then one would expect the filament centers to be the hottest and brightest points.
04:36
But instead, solar physicists were amazed to observe
04:40
that the penumbral filaments have dark cores.
04:43
In the Electric Universe, the Sun and all stars are positively charged anodes
04:48
and the Sun's electrical circuitry
04:50
reaches across vast distances throughout the solar system.
04:54
The electromagnetic connection of the Sun to planets,
04:57
including the earth, is now undeniable.
05:00
In 2007, NASA scientists were amazed to discover dynamic so-called magnetic flux ropes
05:07
that constantly "form and unravel in Earth's magnetosphere"
05:11
and, in 2017, scientists with NASA's Cassini mission
05:15
were astonished to discover that these same "magnetic ropes"
05:19
connect the Sun and the planet Saturn
05:21
over the incredible distance of nearly 900 million miles.
05:25
These so-called magnetic ropes are in fact electrical Birkeland currents
05:30
which are now known to power Earth's auroras.
05:33
It's now more clear than ever that planets within the Sun's electrical domain
05:37
are electrically charged bodies.
05:39
On our own Earth, this fact is best demonstrated by the relatively recent discovery
05:44
of powerful lightning that sometimes occurs above thunderstorms,
05:48
reaching towards space.
05:50
For decades, airline pilots have reported their observations of the stupendous lightning
05:55
though it wasn't until the early 1990s that institutional science
05:59
finally recognized the phenomenon exists.
06:02
More recently, scientists working with the ESA Swarm mission
06:06
reported their discovery of "supersonic plasma jets" high up in our atmosphere.
06:11
A Phys.org report on the discovery stated,
06:14
"The theory that there are huge electric currents,
06:17
powered by solar wind and guided through the ionosphere by Earth's magnetic field,
06:22
was postulated more than a century ago by Norwegian scientist Kristian Birkeland.
06:26
While much is known about these current systems,
06:29
recent observations... have revealed that they are associated with large electrical fields."
06:35
The spectacular filamentary discharges we see in our upper atmosphere
06:39
may have analogs in other bodies in our solar system
06:42
that scientists have yet to recognize.
06:45
The most extreme example may be seen on the Jovian moon Io
06:48
which astronomers have characterized since 1979
06:51
as the most volcanically active body in the solar system.
06:55
But as we've discussed many times on this series,
06:58
the theory that the spectacular, so-called, plumes are a form of cryovolcanism
07:03
has been falsified on numerous counts.
07:06
Just one of many problems for planetary scientists
07:09
is outlined on the official Wikipedia page on Tvashtar Paterae region of Io
07:13
which states that the over 300 kilometer high, so-called, volcanic plume displays
07:18
"an as yet unexplained filamentary structure".
07:23
However, this statement is factually incorrect.
07:26
The filamentary structure was explained decades ago
07:29
by plasma scientists who recognized that the "plumes"
07:33
are high-energy electrical discharges.
07:35
This theory was first proposed by the renowned astrophysicist Thomas Gold in 1979.
07:41
Then in 1988, plasma scientist Dr. Anthony Peratt and co-author Alex Dessler
07:47
explained, in a peer-reviewed paper, that the Io plumes
07:50
are comparable in form to a plasma gun.
07:53
Similar filamentary plasma discharges are seen on the Saturnian moon Enceladus,
07:58
though again, planetary scientists can only apply theories of cryovolcanism.
08:04
But for several years astronomers have recognized
08:07
the electric current systems connecting Saturn and Jupiter to their respective moons
08:12
though they still imagine volcanism producing the detected charged particles.
08:17
The Electric Universe is a connected universe
08:20
and the braided filamentary structures we see throughout our solar system;
08:24
jetting from planetary surfaces,
08:27
on the surface of the Sun
08:29
and in the plasma structures surrounding comets
08:32
as seen in this NASA infrared image of comet Holmes,
08:36
all attest to the electrical circuitry that governs our celestial neighborhood.
08:41
We turn our attention now outside of our solar system
08:44
to our galaxy's interstellar medium
08:46
and the extraordinary role that plasma filaments play in the formation of stars.
08:51
A key prediction of the Electric Universe theory was outlined in the 2005 monograph,
08:56
The Electric Universe, by Wal Thornhill and David Talbott. They wrote,
09:01
"Plasma physicists argue that stars are formed by an electromagnetic 'pinch' effect
09:05
on widely dispersed gas and dust.
09:08
The 'pinch' is created by the magnetic force between parallel current filaments
09:13
that are part of the huge electric currents flowing inside a galaxy."
09:17
In 2015, this prediction was affirmed by data from the Herschel Space Telescope
09:23
which imaged, in unprecedented detail, networks of filaments throughout the Milky Way.
09:28
A Phys.org report on the observations states:
09:31
"ESA's Herschel Space Observatory has been a true game changer...
09:36
One of the key aspects that emerged from these observations
09:39
is the presence of a filamentary network
09:41
nearly everywhere in our galaxy's interstellar medium.
09:45
The picture that is emerging is that these structures
09:48
are closely linked to the formation of stars."
09:51
The principal investigator of the survey stated,
09:54
"The greatest surprise was the ubiquity of the filaments in these nearby clouds
09:59
and their intimate connection with star formation.
10:02
But there is more: these observations revealed that filaments,
10:06
which may extend to several light-years in length,
10:08
appear to have a universal width of about one third of a light year.
10:12
This suggests that something fundamental is lurking underneath."
10:16
Of course, the fundamental thing, lurking underneath the stupendous filaments,
10:21
is electricity.
10:22
The universal width of the filaments that Herschel observed is not coincidental.
10:27
On Earth, lightning bolts of constant width are sometimes observed to stretch for miles.
10:33
Unfortunately, standard astronomy still holds
10:36
to the pre space-age notion of an electrically sterile universe
10:41
and thus the researchers attempt to explain the filamentary networks as follows,
10:46
"Turbulent motions of the interstellar gas and dust
10:49
create an intricate web of filamentary structures..."
10:52
However, from the Electric Universe viewpoint
10:55
it is paramount that the most prominent filaments
10:58
are seen drawing matter from a network of smaller filaments.
11:02
Smaller coronal filaments are also characteristic of electric discharges in plasma.
11:08
Other filamentary structures throughout the Milky Way
11:11
attest to the spectacular electromagnetic energies
11:14
that, in fact, organize and drive all galaxies.
11:18
Near the center of our galaxy is a structure called the Galactic Center Radio Arc,
11:23
a long-standing source of mystery for astronomers.
11:26
The long parallel rays that shoot straight out from the galactic plane
11:30
are described in an Astronomy Picture of the Day as follows,
11:34
"The radio arc is connected to the Galactic center
11:37
by strange curving filaments known as the Arches.
11:40
The bright radio structure at the bottom right
11:43
likely surrounds a black hole at the Galactic center and is known as Sagittarius A*.
11:48
One origin hypothesis holds that the Radio Arc and the Arches have their geometry
11:54
because they contain hot plasma flowing along lines of constant magnetic field.
11:59
Recent images from the Chandra X-ray Observatory
12:02
appear to show this plasma colliding with a nearby cloud of cold gas."
12:06
But plasma cosmology recognizes the dynamic behaviors of electric currents
12:11
flowing through conductive plasma.
12:13
What standard astronomy describes as "long parallel rays",
12:18
plasma physicists recognized as spiralling pairs
12:21
of magnetic field aligned Birkeland currents.
12:24
The so called strange curving filaments are Birkeland currents
12:29
feeding electrical power into the galactic center.
12:32
In plasma cosmology it is not a black hole
12:35
but a plasmoid that is responsible for the tremendous concentration of energies
12:40
and therefore mass at the centers of galaxies.
12:43
As we look at an even greater scale
12:46
we see affirmation of the underlying concept of the Electric Universe that
12:50
"there are no islands in space".
12:53
Earlier this year, researchers publishing in the Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society
13:00
reported the first ever measurement of the "magnetic bridge"
13:03
linking the Milky Way's two nearest galaxies. Known as the Magellanic bridge,
13:09
the unimaginably vast filament stretches for approximately 75 thousand light years
13:15
connecting the large and small Magellanic Clouds.
13:18
One of the researchers says of the findings,
13:20
"Not only are entire galaxies magnetic,
13:23
but the faint delicate threads joining galaxies are magnetic, too.
13:28
Everywhere we look in the sky, we find magnetism."
13:31
The lead researcher of the study stated,
13:34
"In general, we don't know how such vast magnetic fields are generated,
13:38
nor how these large-scale magnetic fields affect galaxy formation and evolution.
13:43
Understanding the role that magnetic fields play in the evolution of galaxies and their environment
13:48
is a fundamental question in astronomy that remains to be answered."
13:53
But as we explained in the first episode of this series,
13:56
magnetism in space will always remain mysterious
14:00
unless and until astronomers recognize the electric currents required
14:04
to induce and sustain the magnetic fields.
14:07
In fact, at the galactic scale, some of the world's most distinguished plasma physicists
14:12
have provided experimental proof that resolves the "mysteries",
14:16
both of the motions of galaxies and their magnetic fields.
14:20
Plasma experiments show that rotation
14:22
is a natural function of interacting electric currents in plasma.
14:26
A good example is the ubiquitous spiral galaxy,
14:30
a predictable configuration of a cosmic scale discharge.
14:35
Computer models of two current filaments, interacting in a plasma,
14:39
have reproduced fine details of spiral galaxies
14:42
with no need for the influence of hypothetical dark matter.
14:46
Consider the comparison of the images on your screen:
14:49
On the top is a picture of the spiral galaxy M81
14:53
as imaged by NASA's Spitzer Space Telescope.
14:56
Beneath are snapshots from a computer simulation, by plasma scientist Dr. Anthony Peratt,
15:02
illustrating the evolution of galactic structures under the influence of electric currents.
15:07
Through the electromagnetic pinch effect,
15:10
parallel currents converge to produce spiraling structures.
15:14
Peratt was a protégé of the Nobel Prize winner, plasma physicist Hannes Alfven,
15:19
who stated of cosmic electrical activity,
15:22
"Space is filled with a network of currents
15:24
which transfer energy and momentum over large or very large distances.
15:29
The currents often pinch to filamentary or surface currents.
15:34
The latter are likely to give space,
15:36
as also interstellar and intergalactic space, a cellular structure."
15:40
Indeed in the 1920s, it was Irving Langmuir
15:44
who is credited with having coined the term plasma to describe an ionized gas
15:49
due to its seemingly lifelike properties reminiscent of blood plasma.
15:53
The filamentary structures we see throughout the cosmos;
15:57
in the spectacular threaded networks in nebulae,
16:01
to the high-energy collimated jets, light-years in length,
16:05
shooting from so-called Herbig-Haro objects,
16:08
to the stupendous cometary knots seen in planetary nebulae,
16:13
to the cosmic web where galaxies, like stars in our Milky Way,
16:18
line filaments of matter like pearls on a string;
16:21
all testify to the electromagnetic force exponentially more powerful than gravity,
16:27
organizing matter at every scale.
16:30
Stay tuned for Part 3
16:37
For continuous updates on Space News from the Electric Universe,
16:41
stay tuned to
16:42
Thunderbolts.info
 
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Thanks, Clete.
This will be an interesting thread that I will read, but won't participate in much at all.
Science is not a strong suit of mine, so I can't really speak one way or the other about it.
And anything I might ask a question about would probably sound way to amateurish to those competent in the field.
But I do like to hear about it and learn.
Some of it goes over my head, but any little bit I can understand is helpful in learning more about it.
 

Clete

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Thanks, Clete.
This will be an interesting thread that I will read, but won't participate in much at all.
Science is not a strong suit of mine, so I can't really speak one way or the other about it.
And anything I might ask a question about would probably sound way to amateurish to those competent in the field.
But I do like to hear about it and learn.
Some of it goes over my head, but any little bit I can understand is helpful in learning more about it.
I doubt you could ask a question that is "too amateurish". Any honest question is a good question. I'd rather answer fifty of your questions than to even have to read some of things people mindlessly say on this website anyway. At least I'd know you weren't just being ridiculous just to be wasting my time.

Besides, if you don't ask questions, you'll always be an amateur! My prediction is that you'll learn more real science on this thread than you'd learn watching ten hours of the Discovery Channel.


Clete
 

Arthur Brain

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I doubt you could ask a question that is "too amateurish". Any honest question is a good question. I'd rather answer fifty of your questions than to even have to read some of things people mindlessly say on this website anyway. At least I'd know you weren't just being ridiculous just to be wasting my time.

Besides, if you don't ask questions, you'll always be an amateur! My prediction is that you'll learn more real science on this thread than you'd learn watching ten hours of the Discovery Channel.


Clete

Are you at all open to the notion that the earth may be around four and a half billion years old?
 

ClimateSanity

New member
Hmm, well, because any theory is put through the utmost and stringent processing and testing for validity on an ongoing basis, that kinda thing? The Illuminati didn't invent evolution dude.
And they can still get it wrong because of wrong assumptions. Why the insult with the illuminati comment? Is your point not strong enough in itself?

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Arthur Brain

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And they can still get it wrong because of wrong assumptions. Why the insult with the illuminati comment? Is your point not strong enough in itself?

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The theory of evolution has been put through the utmost tests and processing and is established as much if not more so than gravity. Why would you question this? I apologize for what you consider an insult but when people consider Alex Jones a viable source of information then it's kinda hard to resist...
 

Clete

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Just to check if you were at all open to established scientific consensus on the matter is all. Carry on...

There is no such thing as scientific consensus. Scientific issues are not up for a vote. Something is proven or it is not. Something is falsified or it is not. This nonsense about scientific consensus is political, not scientific.

I finding it most telling that it is your standard.
 

Clete

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Listen, if you guys want to discuss evolution and the validity of scientific consensus you'd better figure out how to make it directly relevant to the Electric Universe Theory or else take it to another one of the gazillion other threads on evolution. This thread is NOT about evolution and it is not about scientific consensus. Asking a question is one thing, hijacking the thread before it's had 20 posts is another.
 

Clete

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As luck would have it, the guys at The Thunderbolts Project released a new video in the series only hours after I started this thread. Here's part 3....

Top 10 Reasons the Universe is Electric: #3 Cosmic Jets


Transcript:



00:07
Welcome to Space News from the Electric Universe,
00:10
brought to you by The Thunderbolts Project™
00:12
at Thunderbolts.info
00:16
What fills the vast space in the unimaginable distances
00:20
separating celestial objects in the cosmos?
00:24
Space is indeed a big place but it's not a perfect void or vacuum.
00:29
Today this fact is acknowledged even by the NASA space agency
00:33
which states in an official report from 2014,
00:37
"Space may appear empty -- a soundless vacuum, but it's not an absolute void.
00:43
It flows with electric activity that is not visible to our eyes."
00:48
The movement of electrically charged particles requires a medium
00:52
and that medium in space is plasma
00:54
or the so called 4th state of matter.
00:57
Plasma is commonly referred to as a gas
01:00
whose constituent atoms have been split into electrons and ions
01:04
which move independently of each other.
01:06
Well over 99% of the visible universe is composed of plasma
01:11
including the Earth's ionosphere,
01:13
the Sun and All Stars
01:15
and nearly all of the interplanetary, interstellar and intergalactic medium.
01:21
Electric currents flowing through plasma
01:23
can be recognized through their distinct filamentary shape
01:27
as seen in the familiar novelty plasma ball.
01:30
With extraordinary advances in space telescopes
01:33
we see today, in unprecedented detail, filamentary structures
01:37
that pervade the visible universe at all scales.
01:40
The appearances of these distinct structures have proved puzzling to astronomers
01:45
far more often than not
01:46
as they defy the expected form and behaviors of hot gas in a vacuum.
01:51
In part two of this 10 part presentation
01:55
we explore why filamentation throughout the cosmos is just one of 10 reasons
02:00
why the universe is electric.
02:02
Filaments in Space
02:04
Let us begin by considering the examples of filaments that we see locally
02:08
associated with celestial bodies in our own solar system.
02:12
The most dramatic displays can surely be seen on our Sun.
02:16
Of course we see huge plasma filaments,
02:19
sometimes a million kilometers or longer,
02:21
that occasionally erupt or explode off of the Sun's surface.
02:25
But one of countless unresolved problems in solar physics
02:29
is the observation of giant snake-like filaments
02:32
reaching from the surface of the Sun to the dark cores of sunspots.
02:37
For decades, scientists following the standard solar model
02:41
have viewed the Sun spot penumbra filaments as "convection cells"
02:45
or columns of hot gases transporting heat from the Sun's interior to its surface.
02:51
But as physicist Wal Thornhill has observed,
02:54
the filaments bear no resemblance to any known form of convection in a hot gas.
02:59
Indeed, in our first ever Space News episode,
03:02
we reported on the discovery of anomalously weak solar convection
03:07
by scientists measuring the Sun's internal plasma motions.
03:10
The Electric Universe theory proposes that the Sun
03:14
is not powered by an internal thermonuclear reaction
03:17
but rather it receives its electrical energy from interstellar space
03:22
in which case the absence of convection is to be expected.
03:25
The complex magnetic fields associated with the penumbra filaments
03:29
are acknowledged by solar physicists.
03:32
As seen in the text of the Astronomy Picture of the Day image seen on your screen,
03:37
"Here magnetic field lines can be clearly followed outward from the sunspot to distant regions."
03:43
A clear defiance of the expected behaviors of so-called convection cells.
03:48
In a 2002 article on his website;
03:51
Thornhill wrote on the mysterious nature of sunspots,
03:54
"It is crucially important to understand a sunspot
03:57
because it is the only place on the Sun that gives a glimpse below the bright photosphere.
04:02
And what do we see?
04:04
It is cooler down there by thousands of degrees!
04:08
That is not expected at all if the Sun is trying to rid itself of heat.
04:13
The sunspot center should be much hotter and brighter than its surroundings."
04:18
In the Electric Universe, the penumbral filaments are electrical discharges in plasma
04:23
in the characteristic form of long thin rope-like structures.
04:28
If the filaments are "convecting gas"
04:32
then one would expect the filament centers to be the hottest and brightest points.
04:36
But instead, solar physicists were amazed to observe
04:40
that the penumbral filaments have dark cores.
04:43
In the Electric Universe, the Sun and all stars are positively charged anodes
04:48
and the Sun's electrical circuitry
04:50
reaches across vast distances throughout the solar system.
04:54
The electromagnetic connection of the Sun to planets,
04:57
including the earth, is now undeniable.
05:00
In 2007, NASA scientists were amazed to discover dynamic so-called magnetic flux ropes
05:07
that constantly "form and unravel in Earth's magnetosphere"
05:11
and, in 2017, scientists with NASA's Cassini mission
05:15
were astonished to discover that these same "magnetic ropes"
05:19
connect the Sun and the planet Saturn
05:21
over the incredible distance of nearly 900 million miles.
05:25
These so-called magnetic ropes are in fact electrical Birkeland currents
05:30
which are now known to power Earth's auroras.
05:33
It's now more clear than ever that planets within the Sun's electrical domain
05:37
are electrically charged bodies.
05:39
On our own Earth, this fact is best demonstrated by the relatively recent discovery
05:44
of powerful lightning that sometimes occurs above thunderstorms,
05:48
reaching towards space.
05:50
For decades, airline pilots have reported their observations of the stupendous lightning
05:55
though it wasn't until the early 1990s that institutional science
05:59
finally recognized the phenomenon exists.
06:02
More recently, scientists working with the ESA Swarm mission
06:06
reported their discovery of "supersonic plasma jets" high up in our atmosphere.
06:11
A Phys.org report on the discovery stated,
06:14
"The theory that there are huge electric currents,
06:17
powered by solar wind and guided through the ionosphere by Earth's magnetic field,
06:22
was postulated more than a century ago by Norwegian scientist Kristian Birkeland.
06:26
While much is known about these current systems,
06:29
recent observations... have revealed that they are associated with large electrical fields."
06:35
The spectacular filamentary discharges we see in our upper atmosphere
06:39
may have analogs in other bodies in our solar system
06:42
that scientists have yet to recognize.
06:45
The most extreme example may be seen on the Jovian moon Io
06:48
which astronomers have characterized since 1979
06:51
as the most volcanically active body in the solar system.
06:55
But as we've discussed many times on this series,
06:58
the theory that the spectacular, so-called, plumes are a form of cryovolcanism
07:03
has been falsified on numerous counts.
07:06
Just one of many problems for planetary scientists
07:09
is outlined on the official Wikipedia page on Tvashtar Paterae region of Io
07:13
which states that the over 300 kilometer high, so-called, volcanic plume displays
07:18
"an as yet unexplained filamentary structure".
07:23
However, this statement is factually incorrect.
07:26
The filamentary structure was explained decades ago
07:29
by plasma scientists who recognized that the "plumes"
07:33
are high-energy electrical discharges.
07:35
This theory was first proposed by the renowned astrophysicist Thomas Gold in 1979.
07:41
Then in 1988, plasma scientist Dr. Anthony Peratt and co-author Alex Dessler
07:47
explained, in a peer-reviewed paper, that the Io plumes
07:50
are comparable in form to a plasma gun.
07:53
Similar filamentary plasma discharges are seen on the Saturnian moon Enceladus,
07:58
though again, planetary scientists can only apply theories of cryovolcanism.
08:04
But for several years astronomers have recognized
08:07
the electric current systems connecting Saturn and Jupiter to their respective moons
08:12
though they still imagine volcanism producing the detected charged particles.
08:17
The Electric Universe is a connected universe
08:20
and the braided filamentary structures we see throughout our solar system;
08:24
jetting from planetary surfaces,
08:27
on the surface of the Sun
08:29
and in the plasma structures surrounding comets
08:32
as seen in this NASA infrared image of comet Holmes,
08:36
all attest to the electrical circuitry that governs our celestial neighborhood.
08:41
We turn our attention now outside of our solar system
08:44
to our galaxy's interstellar medium
08:46
and the extraordinary role that plasma filaments play in the formation of stars.
08:51
A key prediction of the Electric Universe theory was outlined in the 2005 monograph,
08:56
The Electric Universe, by Wal Thornhill and David Talbott. They wrote,
09:01
"Plasma physicists argue that stars are formed by an electromagnetic 'pinch' effect
09:05
on widely dispersed gas and dust.
09:08
The 'pinch' is created by the magnetic force between parallel current filaments
09:13
that are part of the huge electric currents flowing inside a galaxy."
09:17
In 2015, this prediction was affirmed by data from the Herschel Space Telescope
09:23
which imaged, in unprecedented detail, networks of filaments throughout the Milky Way.
09:28
A Phys.org report on the observations states:
09:31
"ESA's Herschel Space Observatory has been a true game changer...
09:36
One of the key aspects that emerged from these observations
09:39
is the presence of a filamentary network
09:41
nearly everywhere in our galaxy's interstellar medium.
09:45
The picture that is emerging is that these structures
09:48
are closely linked to the formation of stars."
09:51
The principal investigator of the survey stated,
09:54
"The greatest surprise was the ubiquity of the filaments in these nearby clouds
09:59
and their intimate connection with star formation.
10:02
But there is more: these observations revealed that filaments,
10:06
which may extend to several light-years in length,
10:08
appear to have a universal width of about one third of a light year.
10:12
This suggests that something fundamental is lurking underneath."
10:16
Of course, the fundamental thing, lurking underneath the stupendous filaments,
10:21
is electricity.
10:22
The universal width of the filaments that Herschel observed is not coincidental.
10:27
On Earth, lightning bolts of constant width are sometimes observed to stretch for miles.
10:33
Unfortunately, standard astronomy still holds
10:36
to the pre space-age notion of an electrically sterile universe
10:41
and thus the researchers attempt to explain the filamentary networks as follows,
10:46
"Turbulent motions of the interstellar gas and dust
10:49
create an intricate web of filamentary structures..."
10:52
However, from the Electric Universe viewpoint
10:55
it is paramount that the most prominent filaments
10:58
are seen drawing matter from a network of smaller filaments.
11:02
Smaller coronal filaments are also characteristic of electric discharges in plasma.
11:08
Other filamentary structures throughout the Milky Way
11:11
attest to the spectacular electromagnetic energies
11:14
that, in fact, organize and drive all galaxies.
11:18
Near the center of our galaxy is a structure called the Galactic Center Radio Arc,
11:23
a long-standing source of mystery for astronomers.
11:26
The long parallel rays that shoot straight out from the galactic plane
11:30
are described in an Astronomy Picture of the Day as follows,
11:34
"The radio arc is connected to the Galactic center
11:37
by strange curving filaments known as the Arches.
11:40
The bright radio structure at the bottom right
11:43
likely surrounds a black hole at the Galactic center and is known as Sagittarius A*.
11:48
One origin hypothesis holds that the Radio Arc and the Arches have their geometry
11:54
because they contain hot plasma flowing along lines of constant magnetic field.
11:59
Recent images from the Chandra X-ray Observatory
12:02
appear to show this plasma colliding with a nearby cloud of cold gas."
12:06
But plasma cosmology recognizes the dynamic behaviors of electric currents
12:11
flowing through conductive plasma.
12:13
What standard astronomy describes as "long parallel rays",
12:18
plasma physicists recognized as spiralling pairs
12:21
of magnetic field aligned Birkeland currents.
12:24
The so called strange curving filaments are Birkeland currents
12:29
feeding electrical power into the galactic center.
12:32
In plasma cosmology it is not a black hole
12:35
but a plasmoid that is responsible for the tremendous concentration of energies
12:40
and therefore mass at the centers of galaxies.
12:43
As we look at an even greater scale
12:46
we see affirmation of the underlying concept of the Electric Universe that
12:50
"there are no islands in space".
12:53
Earlier this year, researchers publishing in the Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society
13:00
reported the first ever measurement of the "magnetic bridge"
13:03
linking the Milky Way's two nearest galaxies. Known as the Magellanic bridge,
13:09
the unimaginably vast filament stretches for approximately 75 thousand light years
13:15
connecting the large and small Magellanic Clouds.
13:18
One of the researchers says of the findings,
13:20
"Not only are entire galaxies magnetic,
13:23
but the faint delicate threads joining galaxies are magnetic, too.
13:28
Everywhere we look in the sky, we find magnetism."
13:31
The lead researcher of the study stated,
13:34
"In general, we don't know how such vast magnetic fields are generated,
13:38
nor how these large-scale magnetic fields affect galaxy formation and evolution.
13:43
Understanding the role that magnetic fields play in the evolution of galaxies and their environment
13:48
is a fundamental question in astronomy that remains to be answered."
13:53
But as we explained in the first episode of this series,
13:56
magnetism in space will always remain mysterious
14:00
unless and until astronomers recognize the electric currents required
14:04
to induce and sustain the magnetic fields.
14:07
In fact, at the galactic scale, some of the world's most distinguished plasma physicists
14:12
have provided experimental proof that resolves the "mysteries",
14:16
both of the motions of galaxies and their magnetic fields.
14:20
Plasma experiments show that rotation
14:22
is a natural function of interacting electric currents in plasma.
14:26
A good example is the ubiquitous spiral galaxy,
14:30
a predictable configuration of a cosmic scale discharge.
14:35
Computer models of two current filaments, interacting in a plasma,
14:39
have reproduced fine details of spiral galaxies
14:42
with no need for the influence of hypothetical dark matter.
14:46
Consider the comparison of the images on your screen:
14:49
On the top is a picture of the spiral galaxy M81
14:53
as imaged by NASA's Spitzer Space Telescope.
14:56
Beneath are snapshots from a computer simulation, by plasma scientist Dr. Anthony Peratt,
15:02
illustrating the evolution of galactic structures under the influence of electric currents.
15:07
Through the electromagnetic pinch effect,
15:10
parallel currents converge to produce spiraling structures.
15:14
Peratt was a protégé of the Nobel Prize winner, plasma physicist Hannes Alfven,
15:19
who stated of cosmic electrical activity,
15:22
"Space is filled with a network of currents
15:24
which transfer energy and momentum over large or very large distances.
15:29
The currents often pinch to filamentary or surface currents.
15:34
The latter are likely to give space,
15:36
as also interstellar and intergalactic space, a cellular structure."
15:40
Indeed in the 1920s, it was Irving Langmuir
15:44
who is credited with having coined the term plasma to describe an ionized gas
15:49
due to its seemingly lifelike properties reminiscent of blood plasma.
15:53
The filamentary structures we see throughout the cosmos;
15:57
in the spectacular threaded networks in nebulae,
16:01
to the high-energy collimated jets, light-years in length,
16:05
shooting from so-called Herbig-Haro objects,
16:08
to the stupendous cometary knots seen in planetary nebulae,
16:13
to the cosmic web where galaxies, like stars in our Milky Way,
16:18
line filaments of matter like pearls on a string;
16:21
all testify to the electromagnetic force exponentially more powerful than gravity,
16:27
organizing matter at every scale.
16:30
Stay tuned for Part 3
16:37
For continuous updates on Space News from the Electric Universe,
16:41
stay tuned to
16:42
Thunderbolts.info
 
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gcthomas

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As luck would have it, the guys at The Thunderbolts Project released a new video in the series only hours after I started this thread. Here's part 3....

Top 10 Reasons the Universe is Electric: #3 Cosmic Jets


From the video at 1min20: "…cosmic jets. It is a mystery that space science must openly confront. What force is capable of producing high energy jets spanning … light years across the cosmos."

The guys behind the video might be interested in the centrifugal mechanism of acceleration theory that is way more advanced and developed and quantitative than the crank EU 'theory'. Interestingly it involves magnetic fields, putting paid to the misrepresentation that astrophysicists are only interested in gravity.
 

Clete

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From the video at 1min20: "…cosmic jets. It is a mystery that space science must openly confront. What force is capable of producing high energy jets spanning … light years across the cosmos."

The guys behind the video might be interested in the centrifugal mechanism of acceleration theory that is way more advanced and developed and quantitative than the crank EU 'theory'. Interestingly it involves magnetic fields, putting paid to the misrepresentation that astrophysicists are only interested in gravity.

It isn't a misconception. There are real head winds in place when in comes to suggesting that electromagnetism plays a significant role in the motion, interaction, creation and evolution of anything on cosmological scales. The fact that they acknowledge that there are magnetic fields here and there or that one phenomena or another has electromagnetism involved does not equate to proof that the head winds are a "misconception". The computer models that are responsible for nearly everything modern scientists believe do not take electromagnetism into account as a significant force on cosmological scales and any suggestion that these models need to take it into account before postulating things like dark matter and dark energy is scoffed at and could put one's career in jeopardy.

As for a centrifugal mechanism of acceleration is concerned, in what way is it superior to the idea that magnetic fields are responsible, especially considering the fact that such fields are employed in the theory? What exactly is the theory, anyway? Does it suggest a mechanical means of acceleration? In what way would a centrifugal force focus the jets into such tight beams that stretch over light years of space?

In short, can you flesh it out a little so that we can get some idea of what this theory states and why it would be superior to the EU?

Clete
 

gcthomas

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It isn't a misconception. There are real head winds in place when in comes to suggesting that electromagnetism plays a significant role in the motion, interaction, creation and evolution of anything on cosmological scales. The fact that they acknowledge that there are magnetic fields here and there or that one phenomena or another has electromagnetism involved does not equate to proof that the head winds are a "misconception". The computer models that are responsible for nearly everything modern scientists believe do not take electromagnetism into account as a significant force on cosmological scales and any suggestion that these models need to take it into account before postulating things like dark matter and dark energy is scoffed at and could put one's career in jeopardy.

As for a centrifugal mechanism of acceleration is concerned, in what way is it superior to the idea that magnetic fields are responsible, especially considering the fact that such fields are employed in the theory? What exactly is the theory, anyway? Does it suggest a mechanical means of acceleration? In what way would a centrifugal force focus the jets into such tight beams that stretch over light years of space?

In short, can you flesh it out a little so that we can get some idea of what this theory states and why it would be superior to the EU?

Clete

I give you a science area where electromagnetism on a large scale is thoroughly dominant in astrophysics, undermining a key claim of EU, and you still claim that scientists don't treat it as a significant force. Didn't you read what I wrote?

(If you want a primer, check out the Wikipedia entry on "centrifugal mechanism of acceleration", and see if you still believe what you wrote above.)
 
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