toldailytopic: Should being diagnosed insane excuse capital punishment?

[Arthur Brain]

Read my post in #356 and see if you can figure out the answer using common sense.

That doesn't answer the scenario presented GO. In this hypothetical the person who kills is innocent due to being spiked with drugs and completely unaware of what they're doing. How are passers by or witnesses supposed to be aware of this or make an informed judgement as to whether or not it's intentional? Under your reasoning that's all it takes for this person to be executed despite being innocent from culpability themselves. That sound like 'common sense' to you?

 

[genuineoriginal]

That doesn't answer the scenario presented GO. In this hypothetical the person who kills is innocent due to being spiked with drugs and completely unaware of what they're doing. How are passers by or witnesses supposed to be aware of this or make an informed judgement as to whether or not it's intentional? Under your reasoning that's all it takes for this person to be executed despite being innocent from culpability themselves. That sound like 'common sense' to you?

Looks like you missed the point, again.
In your hypothetical situation, innocent blood was spilled and the community is guilty of innocent blood.

As a member of the community, how would you absolve the community of the blood guilt? Would you put the killer to death, or would you allow the killer to flee to the city of refuge?

 

[Arthur Brain]

Looks like you missed the point, again.
In your hypothetical situation, innocent blood was spilled and the community is guilty of innocent blood.

As a member of the community, how would you absolve the community of the blood guilt? Would you put the killer to death, or would you allow the killer to flee to the city of refuge?

GO, did you even read this scenario? The only way a guilty party can be brought to justice is if the one who spiked the "killer" with drugs is brought to account and in this hypothetical that doesn't happen. So what then? If you put the innocent victim of hallucinogens to death then you're executing innocent blood as much as those who have died already. So how does that 'absolve' anything?

Btw most of us don't happen to live in small communes anymore either....:freak:

 

[elohiym]

How would you answer this hypothetical? Supposing someone is spiked with LSD (Note I say spiked and not that they'd deliberately ingested the stuff) and while tripping off their nut they end up killing two people. They have no ability to distinguish between reality and hallucination and don't return to 'normality' even after the drug has done its course. What do you do with them? Try and give them help to recover or put them down like a 'rabid dog'?

Try and give him help to recover.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Try and give him help to recover.

Yup. :thumb:

 

[elohiym]

toldailytopic: Should being diagnosed insane excuse capital punishment?

Yes.

God excused capital punishment when men were not insane (Cain, David). It could not be necessarily wrong to excuse capital punishment if the person is insane or incapable of being subject to the law for some reason. There is a time for every purpose under heaven.

In fact, one's pardon from the penalty of sin is necessary because the carnal mind cannot be subject to the law of God (Ro 8:7), which is why all have sinned and by extension have all committed acts worthy of the death penalty in this world according to God's law.

Not only are we all guilty of sin that requires the eternal punishment that is the wages of sin, but we are all also guilty of acts to the extent that God's law technically requires our death in this world at the hands of the civil authorities.

 

[Granite]

Read my post in #356 and see if you can figure out the answer using common sense.

You're a fine one to talk about common sense...