toldailytopic: Same-sex marriage: for it, or against it?

[kmoney]

Well, there's nothing fundamentally different about the state's role in marriage than in other contracts. Obviously, it has it's own chapters of law, as do any other specific types of contracts.

And their "own" chapters of law make it unique.

But it's what make the marriage contract important.

How is something that the government does for all contracts what makes the marriage contract unique?

The conferring of a benefit upon the married couple by Congress was not intended in any case that I'm aware of to restrict access to marriage based upon the intent of the benefit. The only law I know of that really attempts to restrict access to marriage benefits is the deplorable Defense of Marriage Act, and that was passed after the fact specifically to deny benefits to homosexuals in an act of naked bigotry.

There may have been miscommunication becuase I never meant to say that the benefits the government provides are meant to restrict marriage to a specific group of people.

It's a legal union as well as a personal relation. There are any number of implications.

What specifics are in the legal union?

We don't actually seem to be disagreeing much here, so I don't have much to add. Not sure if I've addressed your questions, but feel free to add more.

Well that's boring. lain:

 

[Arthur Brain]

I believe the purpose of marriage is to protect the child

don't you?

I don't and neither it seems does anyone else on this thread. If I get married it'll be because I want to make a lifelong commitment to the woman I love, regardless of whether we have children or not. Does that penetrate your brain at all?

lain:

 

[chrysostom]

I don't and neither it seems does anyone else on this thread. If I get married it'll be because I want to make a lifelong commitment to the woman I love, regardless of whether we have children or not. Does that penetrate your brain at all?

lain:

would you go ahead and have children without getting married?

 

[Samstarrett]

I don't and neither it seems does anyone else on this thread. If I get married it'll be because I want to make a lifelong commitment to the woman I love, regardless of whether we have children or not. Does that penetrate your brain at all?

lain:

Nothing penetrates Chrys's brain...and that's coming from a reactionary pro-life "homophobic" "bigot" who actually agrees with him on both abortion and gay marriage(not his methods or arguments, just his goals).

 

[chrysostom]

Nothing penetrates Chrys's brain...and that's coming from a reactionary pro-life "homophobic" "bigot" who actually agrees with him on both abortion and gay marriage(not his methods or arguments, just his goals).

what are your methods?

 

[Arthur Brain]

would you go ahead and have children without getting married?

It's not how I'd plan it really but then again I wouldn't get married in order to have children either. That's not the reason why I'd enter into wedlock Chrys as I've just outlined. Your assertion is without merit until you actually start providing some backup...

lain:

 

[rexlunae]

it appears that you are just looking for approval

Nope, equality. Not the same thing.

 

[Arthur Brain]

what are your methods?

Addressing people's arguments with something of substance as oppose to one liners would be a good start....

 

[chrysostom]

It's not how I'd plan it really but then again I wouldn't get married in order to have children either. That's not the reason why I'd enter into wedlock Chrys as I've just outlined. Your assertion is without merit until you actually start providing some backup...

lain:

so would you go ahead and have children without getting married?

 

[chrysostom]

Nope, equality. Not the same thing.

but you objected to the same thing because it didn't have the same name

 

[rexlunae]

but you objected to the same thing because it didn't have the same name

Why give "the same thing" different names, especially in law?

 

[Arthur Brain]

so would you go ahead and have children without getting married?

I've just answered you! I've no intention of having kids currently either in or out of wedlock. Clear? :hammer: How about you start answering others properly for a change? If two people get married with no intention of having children then how is the purpose of marriage to 'protect the child'?! :freak:

 

[chrysostom]

I've just answered you! I've no intention of having kids currently either in or out of wedlock. Clear? :hammer: How about you start answering others properly for a change? If two people get married with no intention of having children then how is the purpose of marriage to 'protect the child'?! :freak:

I didn't ask you if you intended to have children

just wanted to know if you would go ahead and have children without getting married

 

[Town Heretic]

who stays home during the day to take care of your child?

So that's a no then. You don't have an argument, so you're just trolling a thread with real value. Good to know. :thumb:

He's not interested in engaging, AB. He can't. He isn't wearing any clothes.

 

[chrysostom]

Why give "the same thing" different names, especially in law?

you can ask sealeaf that
but
I asked you why it was a problem for you

 

[chrysostom]

So that's a no then. You don't have an argument, so you're just trolling a thread with real value. Good to know. :thumb:

He's not interested in engaging, AB. He can't. He isn't wearing any clothes.

does the mother stay home and take care of your child?

 

[Town Heretic]

does the mother stay home and take care of your child?

You're acting like a troll.

Or, it's none of your business and nonresponsive to the OP discussion. Engage or find another thread to haunt with your two note symphony.

 

[chrysostom]

You're acting like a troll.

Or, it's none of your business and nonresponsive to the OP discussion. Engage of find another thread to haunt with your two note symphony.

why won't you answer the question?

are you worried about where it would lead?

someone has to take care of your child
and
is that someone getting health benefits?
is that someone contributing to the social security fund?

 

[rexlunae]

you can ask sealeaf that

Done. Thanks for the useful input.

I asked you why it was a problem for you

And I told you. Now say something interesting or buzz off.

 

[chrysostom]

Done. Thanks for the useful input.



And I told you. Now say something interesting or buzz off.

I really didn't understand the reason you gave

can you try to explain it?