toldailytopic: Fighting Sioux: Should the University of North Dakota change their mas

[Nathon Detroit]

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toldailytopic: Fighting Sioux: Should the University of North Dakota change their mascot?

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[Nathon Detroit]

Is there any fight in them Sioux?

http://bismarcktribune.com/news/sta...cle_b661ebd8-5d68-5e11-90a9-61a5213feee8.html

 

[MaryContrary]

 

[oatmeal]

No, absolulely not.

Is it the intent of the U to portray itself as a bunch of losers by choosing a symbol of defeat?

Or is it the intent of the U to demonstrate its courage and bravery in the face of opposition?

Since I have every reason to believe that it wants to inspire its students to greatness, why not have a symbol that portrays courage and resolve?

For that state and its history, is there any better choice than what they have already?

oatmeal

 

[MaryContrary]

I'd comment further but I'm still rather busy trying to figure out how a picture of an American Indian is "hostile and abusive" to American Indians.

The only explanation I can think of is that reminding American Indians that they are American Indians would be hostile and abusive.

Which strongly implies being an American Indian must be a very bad thing, so you shouldn't remind them of it.

Which...

 

[Granite]

I don't see a reason for them to change. You could probably make a much stronger case for the Cleveland Indians and Washington Redskins getting a makeover though.

 

[Breathe]

I am so very tired of living in a world obsessed with political correctness. We can all find someone who has offended our ancestral background if we just look hard enough. I'm a redhead of Irish descent. So maybe I should sue Notre Dame for their Fighting Irish.

 

[Granite]

I am so very tired of living in a world obsessed with political correctness. We can all find someone who has offended our ancestral background if we just look hard enough. I'm a redhead of Irish descent. So maybe I should sue Notre Dame for their Fighting Irish.

Nah, just sue a university with a French name for appropriating something Irish.

 

[Breathe]

Nah, just sue a university with a French name for appropriating something Irish.

Lol, an even better idea.

 

[MaryContrary]

I'm a redhead of Irish descent. So maybe I should sue Notre Dame for their Fighting Irish.

Same here. If someone tried to convince me I should be offended at a sports team taking the name "Fighting Irish" I'd be offended at them for assuming that's somehow not a great compliment.

If a sports team decided to take on the name "Butt Kicking MaryContrary's", how the heck is that supposed to ever be offensive to me? :liberals:

The despite is both subtle and projected. But obvious once you catch on to it.

 

[kmoney]

Is there any fight in them Sioux?

http://bismarcktribune.com/news/sta...cle_b661ebd8-5d68-5e11-90a9-61a5213feee8.html

It shouldn't be changed just to satisfy the NCAA's goal of political correctness.

It should depend on the Sioux Indians. Obviously you can't please everyone but if the majority want it changed then the school should comply. If not, leave it alone. Based on the article it seems the tribe is mixed.

And the article seems to say that the NCAA rules allow for exceptions if the tribe gives approval.

 

[The Berean]

Same here. If someone tried to convince me I should be offended at a sports team taking the name "Fighting Irish" I'd be offended at them for assuming that's somehow not a great compliment.

If a sports team decided to take on the name "Butt Kicking MaryContrary's", how the heck is that supposed to ever be offensive to me? :liberals:

The despite is both subtle and projected. But obvious once you catch on to it.

Some more "racist" team logos? :think:

 

[MaryContrary]

It shouldn't be changed just to satisfy the NCAA's goal of political correctness.

It should depend on the Sioux Indians. Obviously you can't please everyone but if the majority want it changed then the school should comply. If not, leave it alone. Based on the article it seems the tribe is mixed.

And the article seems to say that the NCAA rules allow for exceptions if the tribe gives approval.

This, too, make sense.

If someone named their soccer team "The Butt-kicking MaryContrarys" and I didn't want to be associated with soccer for some reason, I'd expect they'd drop that. :idunno:

But, still, the only way this can reasonably be argued to be some kind of slur against the Sioux would be to show the attributes being assigned the sports team in this manner were negative. I don't see how that can be argued reasonably.

 

[Tambora]

I am so very tired of living in a world obsessed with political correctness.

 

[Tambora]

toldailytopic: Fighting Sioux: Should the University of North Dakota change their mascot?

No.

 

[Granite]

This, too, make sense.

If someone named their soccer team "The Butt-kicking MaryContrarys" and I didn't want to be associated with soccer for some reason, I'd expect they'd drop that. :idunno:

But, still, the only way this can reasonably be argued to be some kind of slur against the Sioux would be to show the attributes being assigned the sports team in this manner were negative. I don't see how that can be argued reasonably.

Ummmm, but...who would ever want to be associated with soccer?:think:

 

[MaryContrary]

Ummmm, but...who would ever want to be associated with soccer?:think:

Well, it's kinda gay. lain:

 

[Angel4Truth]

I look at the logo and see the indian and "fighting sioux" written there and think they chose it as a warrior symbol, i don't think theres anything racist at all in it.

I am so very tired of living in a world obsessed with political correctness.

me too

 

[Breathe]

Well, it's kinda gay. lain:

Except for David Beckham.

 

[The Berean]

Except for David Beckham.

No! Especially David Beckham! :flamer: