To the evolutionist, I ask: Did Jesus Christ ever exist?

PureX

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Again, theory based on speculation, not anything concrete to say "yes" to.
We are humans. Our knowledge is always going to be limited, and relative. We can ascertain facts, but the facts are always changing, depending on the perspective and method through which they are being ascertained. Nothing is based solely only on speculation, nor is anything ever absolutely "concrete". This is the human condition that the scientific process tries to accommodate.

Basically, you appear to just be babbling mindless objections about a subject you brought up but don't even remotely understand.
 

Cross Reference

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Since speciation has been directly observed (even the Institute for Creation Resesarch and Answers in Genesis have admitted that) and since a change in allele frequency is always being observed, both microevolution and macroevolution are observed facts.

Can't get better than that.

Oh, I believe it can if you quit with the mumbo-jumbo and speak it like you really understand what it is trying to say.

The question of common descent is testable by DNA analysis, by predicted transitional forms later discovered, and various other lines of evidence. Predictions of the theory have always been validated.

Part of the confusion comes in the misunderstanding of what "theory" means. Newton referred to his "theory of gravitation" even though gravity was an obvious fact. A theory, in science, refers to something that has so much evidence supporting it that there is no reasonable argument against it.

Testable?, evidence?, validated? Then why is it still a theory and not fact? Could it be there really isn't any concrete proof but rather, continued speculation __ conjecture at best with a hope of invalidating God, the creator of all the material placed in your hand for, "testing"?
 

Buzzword

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Science does not pursue nor discover "truth", it postulates theories, tests them through experimentation, and either holds the theory or rejects/alters it depending on the results of the experimentation. The theory of evolution still 'works' according to our scientific investigation and experimentation, so scientists are still holding to the theory.

Scientists don't proclaim any theory to be a "fact" (as in it being "the truth" of reality). They simply hold to it as being representative of reality unless and until it's proven otherwise.

Scientists are not "evolutionists". I'm not sure anyone is an "evolutionists", really. But the theory of evolution has proven itself to be the most 'workable' theory of the origins of speciation that we've come up with, and so it remains the accepted theory until it's proven otherwise.

I'm just going to repost this, because we've had an INSANE number of ludicrous, misinformed, delusional threads on this site started by Creationists (which ARE a thing, unlike "evolutionists"), who refuse to accept this information regarding the scientific method, and would rather continuously attack a strawman version of it which has been crafted for them by decades of indoctrination.

Science looks for "most plausible explanation," not absolutes.

It's RELIGION that looks for absolutes, and fights tooth and nail for them once it decides which ones it likes.
Thus those whose intellect is dominated by religion are apparently unable to grasp the basic ideas and motivation of the scientific method.

And instead of acknowledging their inability and letting those who CAN understand it and work with it get on with it, they go on the attack as if lashing out will somehow make it easier to understand or magically change it into something that fits within their dogma-dominated worldview.
 

The Barbarian

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Barbarian observes:
Since speciation has been directly observed (even the Institute for Creation Resesarch and Answers in Genesis have admitted that) and since a change in allele frequency is always being observed, both microevolution and macroevolution are observed facts.

Can't get better than that.

Oh, I believe it can if you quit with the mumbo-jumbo and speak it like you really understand what it is trying to say.

One of the reasons you're having such trouble, is that even elementary science concepts are all "mumbo-jumbo" to you.

Barbarian observes:
The question of common descent is testable by DNA analysis, by predicted transitional forms later discovered, and various other lines of evidence. Predictions of the theory have always been validated.

Part of the confusion comes in the misunderstanding of what "theory" means. Newton referred to his "theory of gravitation" even though gravity was an obvious fact. A theory, in science, refers to something that has so much evidence supporting it that there is no reasonable argument against it.

Testable?,

Yep. Common descent is testable by looking at the DNA evidence. And we know it works, since it can be checked by testing it on organisms of known descent.

evidence?

Yep. Even honest creationists admit, for example, that the numerous transitional forms are powerful evidence for evolution.

validated?

Yep. Repeated predictions of the theory have been confirmed. Would you like some more examples?

Then why is it still a theory

Because it's been repeatedly validated by confirmed predictions. Perhaps you don't know what "theory" means. It's has confident as one can be about nature.

and not fact?

Evolution is an observed fact. Evolutionary theory is the explanation for it.

Could it be there really isn't any concrete proof

Logical certainty is never part of science. "Proof"is only possible when we make the rules and deduce the particulars from the rules. In science, we observe the particulars and infer the rules from the evidence. Hence, Newton described his theory of gravity, even though gravity is like evolution an observed fact.

but rather, continued speculation __ conjecture at best with a hope of invalidating God, the creator of all the material placed in your hand for, "testing"?

A common misconception among uneducated creationists. In fact, science couldn't even in principle, deny the existence of God. It is limited only to the physical universe, and can say nothing at all about the supernatural.

You're letting your own fantasies disturb you.
 

Cross Reference

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I'm just going to repost this, because we've had an INSANE number of ludicrous, misinformed, delusional threads on this site started by Creationists (which ARE a thing, unlike "evolutionists"), who refuse to accept this information regarding the scientific method, and would rather continuously attack a strawman version of it which has been crafted for them by decades of indoctrination.

Science looks for "most plausible explanation," not absolutes.

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