To Reject the "Historical Gospel" of Jesus Christ is to Reject Christ

beloved57

Well-known member
Sure there is scripture, you just don't believe it.

Ephesians 1:4. 2 Corinthians 5:18. Colossians 1:21. Romans 5:17, 18, 19.

Jesus Christ is Gods new Adam and our new humanity.

None of these scriptures say that all humanity was chosen in Christ! That's a false witness!
 

Robert Pate

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Banned
None of these scriptures say that all humanity was chosen in Christ! That's a false witness!


Try this...

"Who is the image of the invisible God, THE FIRST BORN OF EVERY CREATURE" Colossians 1:15.

Before anything there was Jesus Christ. Jesus is God's new Adam and our new humanity, 2 Corinthians 5:17.

"And he is before ALL THINGS and by him ALL THINGS consist" Colossians 1:17.
 

beloved57

Well-known member
Try this...

"Who is the image of the invisible God, THE FIRST BORN OF EVERY CREATURE" Colossians 1:15.

Before anything there was Jesus Christ. Jesus is God's new Adam and our new humanity, 2 Corinthians 5:17.

"And he is before ALL THINGS and by him ALL THINGS consist" Colossians 1:17.

No they don't say it either!
 

Interplanner

Well-known member
B57,
define the 2nd Adam. why not just call him Christ or Messiah? Why did God have Paul drag "Adam" into it? Do you know any "Adam"s?
 

Bright Raven

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There's nothing in that passage that says all humanity was chosen in Christ! You are a false witness!

It's in this one.


John 3:16 Modern English Version (MEV)

16 “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life.
 

beloved57

Well-known member
It's in this one.


John 3:16 Modern English Version (MEV)

16 “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life.

There's nothing in that scripture that says all humanity was chosen in Christ!
 

Nanja

Well-known member
Making insults don't help you!

I think that their insults are shameful,
especially on a forum discussing Theology.

Personal assaults are intended as a diversion-from-the-truth tactic,
and actually serve to reveal that person's blindness to the Truth,
and their lack of knowledge of the scriptures. So instead of discussing
the issue at hand by bringing scriptures to the table, they revert to name-calling.

And also, quite frankly, their childish behavior displays their immaturity
to the whole world that is watching. Hard to believe these are adults. :nono:

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Robert Pate

Well-known member
Banned
I think that their insults are shameful,
especially on a forum discussing Theology.

Personal assaults are intended as a diversion-from-the-truth tactic,
and actually serve to reveal that person's blindness to the Truth,
and their lack of knowledge of the scriptures. So instead of discussing
the issue at hand by bringing scriptures to the table, they revert to name-calling.

And also, quite frankly, their childish behavior displays their immaturity
to the whole world that is watching. Hard to believe these are adults. :nono:

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You Calvinist are like people standing and staring up at the sky and proclaming that its pink.

How you can swallow such a stupid doctrine is beyond me.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

New member
Hall of Fame
I think that their insults are shameful,
especially on a forum discussing Theology.

Personal assaults are intended as a diversion-from-the-truth tactic,
and actually serve to reveal that person's blindness to the Truth,
and their lack of knowledge of the scriptures. So instead of discussing
the issue at hand by bringing scriptures to the table, they revert to name-calling.

And also, quite frankly, their childish behavior displays their immaturity
to the whole world that is watching. Hard to believe these are adults. :nono:

~~~~~

You and B57 are a minority of two very confused posters.
 

beloved57

Well-known member
I think that their insults are shameful,
especially on a forum discussing Theology.

Personal assaults are intended as a diversion-from-the-truth tactic,
and actually serve to reveal that person's blindness to the Truth,
and their lack of knowledge of the scriptures. So instead of discussing
the issue at hand by bringing scriptures to the table, they revert to name-calling.

And also, quite frankly, their childish behavior displays their immaturity
to the whole world that is watching. Hard to believe these are adults. :nono:

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Amen!
 

Nanja

Well-known member
You and B57 are a minority of two very confused posters.


Actually, it's the majority of so-called "christendom", such as yourself, that is confused / blinded 2 Cor. 4:3-4.

It's so obvious to us that your spiritual understanding of the scriptures is totally zero!

Yes, we are a minority. As a matter of fact we are a very small remnant Rom. 11:5 of the whole of humanity
whom God has Chosen in Christ to have forgiveness of sins Eph. 1:7, and an Eternal Inheritance Eph 1:11.
God Saved us and Called us with an Holy Calling, not according to our works, but according to
His Own Purpose and Grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began 2 Tim. 1:9!

~~~~~
 

beloved57

Well-known member
Actually, it's the majority of so-called "christendom", such as yourself, that is confused / blinded 2 Cor. 4:3-4.

It's so obvious to us that your spiritual understanding of the scriptures is totally zero!

Yes, we are a minority. As a matter of fact we are a very small remnant Rom. 11:5 of the whole of humanity
whom God has Chosen in Christ to have forgiveness of sins Eph. 1:7, and an Eternal Inheritance Eph 1:11.
God Saved us and Called us with an Holy Calling, not according to our works, but according to
His Own Purpose and Grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began 2 Tim. 1:9!

~~~~~

Sure you right!
 
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