:blabla:godrulz said:
Have you read Things That Differ, by C.R. Stam, as well? If so, what did you think of it?
Oh, wait a minute, you never read The Plot. Nevermind.
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Have you read Things That Differ, by C.R. Stam, as well? If so, what did you think of it?
Oh, wait a minute, you never read The Plot. Nevermind.
Lighthouse said:
I think a deductive theology by any one individual (Stam; Enyart) that is a minority view is suspect.
I have not read it, but would enjoy it and pick out the bones. I think others have critiqued their views. I would not uncritically accept one man's writings.
godrulz said:
Lighthouse said:
Was that a wink or a smirk? I know it is a lame response, but there are so many better books I want to read. I am reading F.F. Bruce's Paul: Apostle of the Heart Set Free and another book by Cooke on Johannine, biblical theology. Their conservative perspectives make perfect sense with the historical narratives without Mid-Acts presuppositions.
The Wonderful Name Which We can be Joined to, by Adoption, in This Day of Salvation
The Wonderful Name Which We can be Joined to, by Adoption, in This Day of Salvation
A secret gnosis is supposed to be given to a pseudo paul, and “presto! -you have a mystery religion which contradicts the Scripture and claims itself as the real truth, the real way, and yet denies the Truth revealed, which is Jesus Christ come in second human being Creation flesh to be the promised Seed of the Woman, and come as the Kinsman to Adam to do the duty of Kinsman and redeem Adam’s family and kingdom back, for the Glory of the Father to indwell as it was in the beginning, before the fall.
And the earth is to be filled, finally, with the “sons of Men“ for whom it was made [Psalm 115:16], but not in Adam's name, but in Israel‘s name, by the Adoption into Him, to inherit forever the dominion which He has ransomed; and whose New Man body was patterned in heaven from the beginning as the True Mercy Seat of God, YHWH the Word, Himself, who is clearly the secret, who was “Hidden in God from the beginning”; as Enoch witnessed, when he saw Him in heaven; and whose name was secret, when He was “concealed in God”; and who was with God and was God; whose revealed Name is called “Wonderful”.
He, alone, is worthy to be called "Wonderful"; -it is idolatry to call an invented doctrine "worthy", which has not one iota of understanding of the Message in the Living Oracles as committed only to the Jews, for teaching, by performing them as "dress rehearsals" for the final performance of all appointed Feasts of YHWH; which were all appointed from the beginning of creation.
All honor and power and glory are His alone.
The "Acceptable Year" speaks directly of His coming to perform the final "Day of Atonement "for all in Adam, which Day is the second highlight of earth’s history, as His coming in human flesh as the second human being created by the Father to be Kinsman was the greatest highlight of earth’s History, when the angels proclaimed Him as the “Go-Spel” to all Gentiles..
He, in His human being Person of New creation flesh is God’s “Spel” to all Gentiles, as His coming was to be the Light to the Gentiles and to bring Israel, His adopted Namesake people, back to YHWH.
Israel is His second human being name which is revealed to the “Elect”; and the revealing is the true “Knowing”, in intimate connection by being made one in Spirit with Him -joined to the Living Spirit[Christ] by the Spirit of Adoption; which Adoption pertained to "Israel", the seed of Jacob, by the promise given to AbraHAm; and then being given regenerated bodies made in His image to wear forever, for the Glory of the Father to indwell; which is what Adam had, and lost.
And we all lost the son-ship we were created for, in Adam, as his seed, in the same day he ate that evil, defiling fruit, and died in spirit [without remedy, and forever], as “Adam, son of God“, with the glory of the Father indwelling his being.
To “Know Him” is to be born into His Spirit, joined as one in His Living Spirit, which is called the second birth, from above; and He gives us the “Power” to become sons of God by “believing on His name” -His “Wonderful Name”.
The only "Knowing" which will count on the Day of Judgment is being "One Spirit" in His Living Spirit by adoption; for all in adam will be cut off fromt he inheritance forever.
The dispensation of the fullness of times as taught by MAD doctrine is an idol, "self made"which is held higher in the minds of those who follow it than the words of the LORD Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who came in human flesh as Kinsman to be the promised Redeemer; and the doctrine of MAD takes the Glory which rightfully belongs only to the Son of God as our "Champion" our "Husband" [Isyh -Isaiah 59] of earth; who is our "Hero", and who alone came with the Life He, only, had, to give willingly for our Ransom, and our kingdom's ransom, so that we can be sons of God in His name, by adoption, and get the inheritance back, which was prepared for the son of Man from the beginning -which was lost in Adam's yielding to the tempter;
He, the second and only Living Isyh" of this earth, is the "Wonderful" New Thing in the earth which was promised from the Beginning, and His coming in flesh as the Seed of the Woman [Zion above] is the fullfilling of the Oath He made from the beginning.
The Wonderful Name Which We can be Joined to, by Adoption, in This Day of Salvation
A secret gnosis is supposed to be given to a pseudo paul, and “presto! -you have a mystery religion which contradicts the Scripture and claims itself as the real truth, the real way, and yet denies the Truth revealed, which is Jesus Christ come in second human being Creation flesh to be the promised Seed of the Woman, and come as the Kinsman to Adam to do the duty of Kinsman and redeem Adam’s family and kingdom back, for the Glory of the Father to indwell as it was in the beginning, before the fall.
And the earth is to be filled, finally, with the “sons of Men“ for whom it was made [Psalm 115:16], but not in Adam's name, but in Israel‘s name, by the Adoption into Him, to inherit forever the dominion which He has ransomed; and whose New Man body was patterned in heaven from the beginning as the True Mercy Seat of God, YHWH the Word, Himself, who is clearly the secret, who was “Hidden in God from the beginning”; as Enoch witnessed, when he saw Him in heaven; and whose name was secret, when He was “concealed in God”; and who was with God and was God; whose revealed Name is called “Wonderful”.
He, alone, is worthy to be called "Wonderful"; -it is idolatry to call an invented doctrine "worthy", which has not one iota of understanding of the Message in the Living Oracles as committed only to the Jews, for teaching, by performing them as "dress rehearsals" for the final performance of all appointed Feasts of YHWH; which were all appointed from the beginning of creation.
All honor and power and glory are His alone.
The "Acceptable Year" speaks directly of His coming to perform the final "Day of Atonement "for all in Adam, which Day is the second highlight of earth’s history, as His coming in human flesh as the second human being created by the Father to be Kinsman was the greatest highlight of earth’s History, when the angels proclaimed Him as the “Go-Spel” to all Gentiles..
He, in His human being Person of New creation flesh is God’s “Spel” to all Gentiles, as His coming was to be the Light to the Gentiles and to bring Israel, His adopted Namesake people, back to YHWH.
Israel is His second human being name which is revealed to the “Elect”; and the revealing is the true “Knowing”, in intimate connection by being made one in Spirit with Him -joined to the Living Spirit[Christ] by the Spirit of Adoption; which Adoption pertained to "Israel", the seed of Jacob, by the promise given to AbraHAm; and then being given regenerated bodies made in His image to wear forever, for the Glory of the Father to indwell; which is what Adam had, and lost.
And we all lost the son-ship we were created for, in Adam, as his seed, in the same day he ate that evil, defiling fruit, and died in spirit [without remedy, and forever], as “Adam, son of God“, with the glory of the Father indwelling his being.
To “Know Him” is to be born into His Spirit, joined as one in His Living Spirit, which is called the second birth, from above; and He gives us the “Power” to become sons of God by “believing on His name” -His “Wonderful Name”.
The only "Knowing" which will count on the Day of Judgment is being "One Spirit" in His Living Spirit by adoption; for all in adam will be cut off fromt he inheritance forever.
The dispensation of the fullness of times as taught by MAD doctrine is an idol, "self made"which is held higher in the minds of those who follow it than the words of the LORD Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who came in human flesh as Kinsman to be the promised Redeemer; and the doctrine of MAD takes the Glory which rightfully belongs only to the Son of God as our "Champion" our "Husband" [Isyh -Isaiah 59] of earth; who is our "Hero", and who alone came with the Life He, only, had, to give willingly for our Ransom, and our kingdom's ransom, so that we can be sons of God in His name, by adoption, and get the inheritance back, which was prepared for the son of Man from the beginning -which was lost in Adam's yielding to the tempter;
He, the second and only Living Isyh" of this earth, is the "Wonderful" New Thing in the earth which was promised from the Beginning, and His coming in flesh as the Seed of the Woman [Zion above] is the fullfilling of the Oath He made from the beginning.
jeremysdemo
New member
Lighthouse said:
Yes because we all know it about how many books you read, not about treating others according to what Jesus taught.
keep shinin'
jerm
lightninboy
Member
Dear drbrumley,
I gave you those questions on February 12. It is now February 16.
How long does it take you to answer true or falses and a couple of essay questions?
If you were knowledgeable about MAD, you should have whipped it off in no time.
Did you swallow MAD without examining it first?
I gave you those questions on February 12. It is now February 16.
How long does it take you to answer true or falses and a couple of essay questions?
If you were knowledgeable about MAD, you should have whipped it off in no time.
Did you swallow MAD without examining it first?
jeremysdemo
New member
I can't speak for him, but I know why I haven't responded to your post:
I would love nothing more to show you how wrong this analysis of the text is and one what levels, but do fear in light of previous conversations it would fall on deaf ears.
keep shinin'
jerm
lightninboy said:
lightninboy said:
I would love nothing more to show you how wrong this analysis of the text is and one what levels, but do fear in light of previous conversations it would fall on deaf ears.
keep shinin'
jerm
lightninboy
Member
I made a list of the The Wonderful Dispensation of Grace MAD chickens.
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1337830#post1337830
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1337830#post1337830
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lightninboy
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Excuses, excuses.jeremysdemo said:I would love nothing more to show you how wrong this analysis of the text is and one what levels, but do fear in light of previous conversations it would fall on deaf ears.
keep shinin'
jerm
lightninboy
Member
It seems to me that if Acts 9 dispensationalism is not backed up as true by the Bible, they are losers.
lightninboy said:
We all likely hold views that are less than biblical. I hope this does not make us all losers. An unbeliever who defiantly rejects God's truth is a loser, perhaps. A fellow believer who is wrestling with biblical interpretation is not a loser.
lightninboy
Member
Okay, I'll change "losers" to "chickens."lightninboy said:
lightninboy
Member
Have I ever backed down?godrulz said:
Let the Bible be the judge.
Bingo!godrulz said:
jeremysdemo
New member
lightninboy said:
It's not an excuse it's obeying the command of Jesus.
He says do not give what is Holy to dogs.
Until you demonstrate behavior to the contrary, you will not be given what you seek by me.
keep shinin'
jerm
There is nothing holy -sanctified, set apart, about the doctrine of MAD; and some of those whom I have 'met' on this board have not one grain of civility in them, and certainly not anything of the love of the LORD Jesus Christ; and I would fear to meet at least one particular one on freeway in rush hour, as he is of the sort who thinks they are owed all things, as his spirit toward me was that of one who demonstrates 'road rage'. However, he is held in high esteem by those who are here who adhere to MAD doctrine, and if they are not behaving the same as he is, but they approve of his ways, then they hold guilt with his behavior and think they are good sports to behave so!jeremysdemo said:It's not an excuse it's obeying the command of Jesus.
He says do not give what is Holy to dogs.
Until you demonstrate behavior to the contrary, you will not be given what you seek by me.
keep shinin'
jerm
I have demonstrated that MAD dcotrine is not biblical, and was totally refuted by a book accepted as Scripture and quoted much in the NT by the LORD and by all the NT writers; but truth smacking is not really what this site is about, but smacking at truth and at those who prove MAD doctrinally false when it is presented against MAD is more descriptive. -then there are others who ignore all Truth presented showing their errors as if it has never been said, and go on posting great volumes of false doctrine not connected to the One Way God has given for all men to be perfected in His Son, by the Atonement and adoption into His New Man Spirit.